Uhh did beehaw just decide to say lights out? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 year ago by DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Tried to visit the main site, and this popped up?

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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

They have decided to defederate with .world, so did kbin. They felt that too many new users were going to their communities and breaking their rules.

[-] ElSapo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

kbin did not defederate with .world, and beehaw hasn't defederated yet with kbin (although I guess sooner or later they will) so I do not know what you are talking about. In any case, this has nothing to do with the ability or inability to see the site, which on my end works fine btw.

[-] metic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

lemmy.world appears on their list of blocked instances, as well as sh.itjust.works

https://beehaw.org/post/567170

[-] ElSapo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, but BigFig's comment (mistakenly) implied that either kbin defederated with lemmy.world or that beehaw defederated with kbin, while it isn't so.

[-] AndreTelevise@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I can't see new posts from kbin on l.world anymore so idk what's happenning

[-] ElSapo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The newest post from kbin I was able to find is this: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/33340/Reddit-Blackout-19-Comments-day-and-9-Posts-day-during-the-48h (3 minutes ago) and on lemmy.world I can see it with no problem ( https://lemmy.world/post/183440 ). Yesterday since synchronisation wasn't yet over (Now I think/hope it is) some smaller magazines weren't available on lemmy.world, but now everything should be visible.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 year ago

I thought kbin.social was temporarily not federating with anyone, as their cloudflare protection was blocking it

[-] ElSapo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yesterday kbin removed that restriction, and now they are fully federated with lemmy. But I don't know if all "magazines" (kbin communities) are fully synchronised, a couple I was following finished to synchronise only this morning.

[-] jsqribe@feedly.j-cloud.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Is there a kbin community finder similar to lemmys? Everytime I check kbin it seems it's just an interface to Lemmy..

[-] ElSapo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

@jsqribe@feedly.j-cloud.uk

https://browse.feddit.de works only for Lemmy's instances and communities, so if you want something more precise than your instance's search bar you should go to https://kbin.social/magazines and then copypaste the link to your instance (in your case feedly.j-cloud.uk ) search bar if you want to subscribe to it. In all cases, Kbin is different form Lemmy if seen from its own site, since they are trying to do a more comprehensive social platform, while instead Lemmy is just trying to be a link aggregator (The same typology of Reddit and of other now defunct sites). So, to summarise up, from lemmy you can see all the contents of kbin (which is a different software) but the "experience" is different from the one you have on the kbin site and thus, functionally, when using a lemmy instances kbin can be treated as another lemmy instance, even if it isn't.

[-] jsqribe@feedly.j-cloud.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks @ElSapo@lemmy.world,

Have subscribed to a few "magazines" from kbin. They are showing as pending but assume it just needs to do some syncing on my instance.

I think where I went wrong before was trying this with kbin.run and not kbin.social as they had the CloudFlare protection at the time.

[-] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not on l.world. Even so I should be able to visit the main instance and see the top posts.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

possible theyve decided to defederate entirely, though i doubt that. I'm able to go to beehaw.org and see their posts just fine

[-] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, used another browser and it works fine. Weird.

[-] Stoneykins@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

They don't have the beefiest server ever, although most lemmy instances don't. I experienced that 404 page and a 502 page a few times over the last few days, there are just random moments, possibly due to high traffic, where it became inaccessible for a few minutes at a time.

[-] AndreTelevise@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Old posts and comments will be seen, new ones won't be seen. One-sided defederation is like two linked servers delinking from one another - you keep the old info but you basically desync and one side can't see the other if they add new stuff.
That's why I have accounts on both kbin and l.world - so that I am able to access more information as it gets updated. It seems the influx of new users is leading to a fracturing and a defederation of the biggest instances, so having one account for all of the threadiverse is not viable.

[-] Habnab@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

kbin has not defederated with .world lol

[-] livejamie@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Please don't spread rumors like this, it's not true. There are several kbin instances in their linked instances column and none of them are blocked, including kbin.social.