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Google is developing a Terminal app for Android that'll let you run Linux apps. It'll download and run Debian in a VM for you.

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Engineers at Google started work on a new Terminal app for Android a couple of weeks ago. This Terminal app is part of the Android Virtualization Framework (AVF) and contains a WebView that connects to a Linux virtual machine via a local IP address, allowing you to run Linux commands from the Android host. Initially, you had to manually enable this Terminal app using a shell command and then configure the Linux VM yourself. However, in recent days, Google began work on integrating the Terminal app into Android as well as turning it into an all-in-one app for running a Linux distro in a VM.

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Google is still working on improving the Terminal app as well as AVF before shipping this feature. AVF already supports graphics and some input options, but it’s preparing to add support for backing up and restoring snapshots, nested virtualization, and devices with an x86_64 architecture. It’s also preparing to add some settings pages to the Terminal app, which is pretty barebones right now apart from a menu to copy the IP address and stop the existing VM instance. The settings pages will let you resize the disk, configure port forwarding, and potentially recover partitions.

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If you’re wondering why you’d want to run Linux apps on Android, then this feature is probably not for you. Google added Linux support to Chrome OS so developers with Chromebooks can run Linux apps that are useful for development. For example, Linux support on Chrome OS allows developers to run the Linux version of Android Studio, the recommended IDE for Android app development, on Chromebooks. It also lets them run Linux command line tools safely and securely in a container.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 93 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I want a Linux phone capable of running android apps

[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So, I'm not that great with Linux. I know the basics, that's it.

Is it user friendly? I mainly want Linux with Android app support because I hate Google.

I've used windows my entitle life. Now windows 11 upgrade was done without consent, now they are doing their best to make it even worse then it already was. I would love to switch to Linux, it's just that I'm using some apps which do not exist for Linux yet. Next to that I'm not that comfortable with the Linux mechanics to make the switch on my main PC. As in: Like I know what I'm doing on the machine which I use a big part of my time. I need full control. I know I have it with Linux, I just don't know how. And I feel stupid for it.

The moral of my story is: I'm scared to make a switch from something I'm so familiar with for years and years to something new, even though I hate the corporations behind the stuff I use.

[–] sue_me_please@awful.systems 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can test Linux out by using a live USB instance or in a VM. You can also dual boot so you'll always have Windows available if you need it.

You can also install WSL on Windows or something like Git Bash or MSYS2 to get a Linux-y environment on Windows.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I have used dual boot, live usb sticks and VM's. It's just that I don't feel that comfortable within the Linux environment as my knowledge is lacking somewhat and I haven't used it enough to fix that.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

have you considered desktop linux + grapheneOS? would be a better experience for you most likely

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'll check it out, thanks!

[–] sue_me_please@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Will never happen because of SafetyNet. Google does not want you running Android apps on anything other than their approved Android ROMs.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] sue_me_please@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Looks like Google is calling it Play Integrity these days: https://developer.android.com/privacy-and-security/safetynet/deprecation-timeline

But it's this: https://developer.android.com/google/play/integrity

It's an API that ensures you're running apps on the hardware and Android ROMs Google approves of. It can also ensure that apps are not running on rooted phones.

Developers can integrate it into their apps. Banking apps do it, for example, and won't run in Waydroid as a result. More and more apps integrate it over time.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago

Fuck the supply chain that purposely cock blocks The Linux Phone & innovation too.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

Came in to say this. Linux on ARM is getting so close to daily driver ready.