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The Abandon Harris movement that sprouted late last year out of the widespread outrage over the Biden-Harris administration’s support for the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza has officially endorsed the Green Party’s Jill Stein for US president.

The endorsement is the first of its kind for Stein and the Green Party, with the Abandon Harris campaign being the first major Muslim-led political group to endorse her campaign this election cycle. Last month, a smaller group, the Muslim American Public Affairs Council NC, also endorsed Stein.

“We are not choosing between a greater evil and a lesser evil. We are confronting two destructive forces: one currently overseeing a genocide and another equally committed to continuing it. Both are determined to see it through,” the Abandon Harris campaign said in a statement released on Monday.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only realistic option is to try and change the stance of one of the two that can win the election

Which is nearly impossible, ergo it isn't a solution. Revolution is necessary.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Voting for Jill Stein somehow constitutes a revolution?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nope, but it delegitimizes the Electoral system, abandoning Electoralism is important for revolution, as well as firmly standing against genocide.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It also makes sure women lose rights to thier bodies, immigrants get deported, homeless go to jail, gay rights get taken away, schools get refunded, LGBT+ rights get taken away, there's more tax cuts for the rich, Christian ideology runs rampant, our allies distrust us again, ....

But keep going on how genocide is the only problem

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Already happening under the Democrats. The DNC isn't protecting anyone at the Federal level. It's usually lower level candidates that are doing more for marginalized groups because they are closer to their constituents.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Here a little refresher of some things he's done JUST from the past year

Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession

Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama

Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%

$1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN

$600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.

$427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.

$372 million to replace Cape Cod's nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.

$300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.

$95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.

$142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as "the bathtub" due to its regular flooding.

$150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.

Modernizes American port infrastructure

$3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities

$623 million to build EV charging network

Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses

$426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm

Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world

US oil production hits all-time high

Rescinds Trump-era "Denial of Care" rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief

Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center

US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010

$250 million to modernize airports in 37 states

$4.4 million to upgrade Maine's power grid

Violent crime drop significantly since 2020

$5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure

Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans

Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure

$500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience

$1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population

$1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030

$1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites

$28 billion towards substance abuse treatment

$366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas

Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8

Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness

Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern

Bans asbestos

Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road

Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries

Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant

Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development

Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump

Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado

First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water

"Last resort" program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes

America's economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries

Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity

Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining

$7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households

Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually

Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights

Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030

Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero

Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own

Reinstates net neutrality

Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity

Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act

Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students

In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do

Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line

Bans Russian uranium imports

$16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities

Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers

Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded

Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)

Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports

Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay

Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease

Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage

Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so

Again, that's just the past year. Want me to find more for you? Or maybe you can do more research

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This didn't answer my question, it's just a copy-pasted list. None of it is sourced either, it's the gish-gallop tactic.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You do know computers have the ability to copy and paste? Hell you don't even have to do that. You can just highlight a sentence, right click, and then left click the option that says Google this, it also works kinda the same way with phones too.

Or do you need someone to wipe your ass for you too?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now you're being rude for getting called out for gish-galloping, rather than actually answering the question at hand. I could have been rude too, but chose not to.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You said democrats do nothing to help the people. I gave you a list of ways that have helped people. If I'm gish washing your being willfully ignorant to everything that's happening outside of Gaza.

Look dude, honestly since I've seen you around so much fighting for your side, there is nothing I can say that will sway you. There is also nothing you can say that will sway me. Let's just call it's quits here then, cause this is pointless

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You gish-galloped. I wanted a concrete example and you sent a tidal wave of unverified claims, we can't use that for discussion.

Look dude, honestly since I've seen you around so much fighting for your side, there is nothing I can say that will sway you. There is also nothing you can say that will sway me. Let's just call it's quits here then, cause this is pointless

That's fine, you're not going to be able to convince me to take an anti-Marxist position.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

28 million? That's pennies, this is just virtue signalling. The US has the power and resources to entirely solve substance abuse, but won't.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You do know he doesn't get to just do everything he wants right? He was blocked by Republicans every step of the way

You're really showing your ignorance here

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

It's Kabuki Theatre, lol. Biden serves the interests of the DNC's donors, not the public.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cool. Woefully insufficient, not terrible. This is drops in the bucket of required protections, akin to a band-aid on a gaping wound.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, cause your 3rd party candidate is gunna do so much better haha

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I have repeatedly advocated for Revolution, do you think I believe the problems with the US can be solved at the ballot box?

However, if Claudia De La Crúz did manage to get elected, she would do better, yes.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ohhhh. So, you don't actually keep up with politics. You either just want to rant about stuff you don't know or are a plant. Good to know know

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I do keep up, mind offering an example? Harris is campaigning to the right of Trump in 2016 when it comes to immigration, as an example. I'm not a plant, nor am I ignorant, I'm just a Leftist.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession

Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama

Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%

$1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN

$600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.

$427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.

$372 million to replace Cape Cod's nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.

$300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.

$95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.

$142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as "the bathtub" due to its regular flooding.

$150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.

Modernizes American port infrastructure

$3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities

$623 million to build EV charging network

Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses

$426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm

Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world

US oil production hits all-time high

Rescinds Trump-era "Denial of Care" rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief

Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center

US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010

$250 million to modernize airports in 37 states

$4.4 million to upgrade Maine's power grid

Violent crime drop significantly since 2020

$5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure

Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans

Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure

$500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience

$1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population

$1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030

$1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites

$28 billion towards substance abuse treatment

$366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas

Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8

Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness

Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern

Bans asbestos

Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road

Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries

Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant

Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development

Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump

Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado

First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water

"Last resort" program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes

America's economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries

Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity

Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining

$7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households

Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually

Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights

Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030

Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero

Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own

Reinstates net neutrality

Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity

Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act

Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students

In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do

Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line

Bans Russian uranium imports

$16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities

Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers

Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded

Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)

Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports

Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay

Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease

Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage

Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so

Again, that's just the past year. Want me to find more for you? Or maybe you can do more research

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of that answered my question, lmao. You just copy-pasted a pre-existing list.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You asked for an example on how he's helped the people, I gave you many examples.

The fact that your mad since you moved the goal post doesn't concern me pal haha

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I asked for a concrete example, you gish-galloped a huge list of unsourced and incomplete points. It's useless, there's nothing to discuss.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it does, but not in a "we're going to fix this" kind of way, but in a "we're going to hand the keys to the castle over to the self-proclaimed dictator who may try to abolish elections entirely" kind of way.

If that's what you want, just vote for Trump, don't play around with this third party BS.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If Trump actually tries to do away with elections, you still wouldn't lift a finger to stop him, just accept it and go on with your day. Genocide wasn't enough to get you to abandon the DNC and GOP, so neither will Trump.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, if he does away with elections I'll mail him a postcard that says "I vote for Jill Stein" - that'll leave him quivering in his boots and solve everything.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

That would be more than you've done so far, I'll give you that.