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I mean the technical hurdles aren't insurmountable. But we lack the political will power to put resources needed into it.
It would take 60s moon landing level of commitment for 10-15 years to do any sooner.
I wasn't commenting on whether we "should" go, only that I felt we had the resources/ability to go...
It's technically feasible in the bare minimum “Got there” sense. Bringing someone and getting them back. But we learned a lot by the moon exploration, and that is that we aren't ready for colonization. Living there, for a long time, let alone indefinitely, that is where the million details are still unresolved. I think that's the problem that is worth tackling. We already know we can live in space for a long time as long as there are continuous shipments of resources from Earth. We could just flood the logistics problem with money and get to mars next year if we wanted to. Other than the psychologically horrifyingly long distances involved, of course.
I'll say that Andy Weir got most of it right on how to do manned missions to Mars.
You build a huge space station, and then use that as the ship that goes to and from Mars.
Then the actual mission on the surface lasting a month or three before the astronauts pack up and head home.
How close would 44bn get us to Mars? I can't help think that would have been a better investment than twitter.
The technical hurdles are insurmountable with any technology we have today. It is impossible, period, for humans to be landed on Mars in four years. It is impossible, period, for humans to have a semi-permanent settlement on Mars in the lifetime of anybody alive.
Going to the Moon, our closest neighbour, is child's play in comparison to going to Mars. And look how well getting humans back to the moon is going…
Can you expand on why you are reaching that conclusion?
Well I pointed to one already: the numbskulls in charge of space programs can't even return us to our closest neighbour (about 400,000km) so thinking they can get us to Mars in the foreseeable future (an average of 225,000,000km, so about 550× the distance) is ludicrous.
At the rate things are going we won't be standing on the Moon again by the end of a purported Trump term, not to mention Mars, just based on distance alone.
But this isn't even what I'm actually talking about. I'm talking about how badly people underestimate the difficulties of a trip to Mars. Here are some (and only some!) of the issues:
There's also one more reason to be certain that getting to Mars is not going to happen anytime soon and that colonizing Mars is a pipe dream that will literally never happen: going back to the topic of this board, the Apartheid Manchild is soundly convinced it's just around the corner. Like his Hyperloop. And his full self-driving. And his solar panel factories. And his … you get the picture. The fact that this twat, of all people, is the biggest cheerleader of visiting and colonizing Mars should tell you just how implausible the idea really is.
P.S. Keep downvoting the truth away, children. It won't change the fact that if you're alive now you will almost definitely not see any kind of semi-permanent human presence on Mars and you likely won't even see a human landing on Mars. "Click-click-clickety-click" doesn't change harsh reality. You can't vote reality away!)