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[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Blaming individuals produced by the system and not the system itself is strange. That's like saying the IDF isn't the problem, the soldiers are.

[โ€“] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a fair critique. I don't like the capitalism we currently practice. I prefer a blend of socialism and capitalism - a social democracy if you will. I don't hate large corporations per se. I do hate those who commoditize basic necessities such as healthcare and housing. This is where i believe there should be no privatisation.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Social Democracy isn't a blend of Capitalism and Socialism, it's Capitalism with social safety nets.

Either way, what you describe maintains accumulation and monopolization, which results in more privitization and disparity, which we see in the Nordic Countries. There are no static systems.

[โ€“] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So what does a blend of capitalism and socialism look like to you? I'm saying that sectors which can lead to unfair control over necessary resources should be solely controlled by the government.

And you say monopolization. Monopolization of what exactly? I don't think you care too much for the monopolization of the gaming industry or the video streaming industry do you?

Also, you emphasize wealth concentration. What exactly do you dislike about it? Especially considering that under a social democracy wealth is only at that point luxury since there is welfare available.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So what does a blend of capitalism and socialism look like to you? I'm saying that sectors which can lead to unfair control over necessary resources should be solely controlled by the government.

There isn't really such thing as a "blend," systems are either controlled by the bourgeoisie or proletariat. A socialist country with a large market sector is still socialist, a Capitalist country with a large public sector is still Capitalist. I recommend reading Socialism Developed China, not Capitalism.

And you say monopolization. Monopolization of what exactly? I don't think you care too much for the monopolization of the gaming industry or the video streaming industry do you?

Monopolization paves the way for socialization. Large, monopolist syndicates make themselves open to central planning and democratic control.

Also, you emphasize wealth concentration. What exactly do you dislike about it? Especially considering that under a social democracy wealth is only at that point luxury since there is welfare available.

Wealth concentration leads to influence, which results in further privitization and erosion of social safety nets, like we see in the declining Nordic Countries.

[โ€“] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. I still disagree with the impossibility of "blends", but i will take a look at that book you recommended. Thank you for the conversation.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

No problem! Let me know if you have any questions.

[โ€“] Abnorc@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if billionaires are the product of capitalism per se. Billionaires are people who have found out how to exploit the current system the best. In a socialistic society there are plenty of opportunities for corruption and exploitation of the working class. The rules are just a bit different. Billionaires definitely will defend capitalism since it's how they're currently winning the game, but they'll adapt as soon as they need to as well. That or the winners will be a different group of people. Either way, the most powerful will always look for ways to consolidate even more power.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I suggest you read Marx, I can make some recommendations if you like.