Who is these people that want this? And even if they do. Creating a good game does not need 500 people. And if you want to provide content after setup several small parallel teams to make cosmetics and stuff.

But the whole live service is something the companies want. So they can keep monetizing it and turn if off once a new iteration is done.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Check out the leaks from the Sony/Microsoft trial

There are literally tens of millions of people who ONLY use their PS5 for CoD - a live service multiplayer game.

A whole generation of people have literally never played a single player game and don’t know how to.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's like they exist in an alternate reality. But then I'm fine with that too. If there is a market for that.. just a shame that the hunt for this audience eats up everything else.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

Another way to look at it is that the multiplayer market is the only pool of money big enough to support games at that level.

Maybe if single player gamers would be accepting of feature scopes from 10-15 years ago, there’d be a stable niche for single player games.

I’m in my 40s and only get enjoyment from multiplayer games. Single player just dries up for me in terms of dopamine release.

When I was in my 20s I was unsocial, heavily autistic, couldn’t stand multiplayer because I didn’t control the variables.

Basically, my wallet and my brain followed a coupled pair of paths. The version of me with more money has more need for other people in my games.

I have more tolerance for other people. But also I’m more lonely in life. Used to be, games were a refuge from the other people I was constantly surrounded by in school, college, roommate situations. I could just go be alone and have fun, and I needed to be alone.

And that was when I was broke.

Now, I have more money, and I crave social contact. I live alone, don’t have constant social overwhelm any longer. Games aren’t my refuge of solitude any more. Now they’re a way to feel other people without having to go out my front door.

I’m not made of money, but I can afford games now.

Probably a connection there.

My main thesis though is just that maybe the world of multiplayer gaming just has more money in it period. Maybe it’s only the world of multiplayer gaming that can actually support AAA games’ budgets.

15 years ago, no game had a budget with the same orders of magnitude we see these days. Also, 15 years ago the oldest gamer demographics were 15 years younger.

Which brings me back to my original point: maybe it’s not that the multiplayer games are somehow nullifying the market for AAA single player games; maybe it’s just that no such market ever existed. That the multiplayer market is a new market that didn’t exist 15 years ago, not a transformation of an existing market.

For me at least the correlation is that me having this kind of gaming budget is correlated with me having overall social isolation more than overall social overwhelm like I did in my twenties.