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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sounds like NHTSA recommended the veto so we don’t end up with competing standards.

Good move, IMO. For a system as large as this, with severe safety implications, you really don’t want to start on the wrong foot.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you really don’t want to start on the wrong foot.

We all be walkin' here. GET OUT (I kid)

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

It’s a car’s world, we’re just walkin in it.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The article doesn't say that the NHTSA asked Newsom to veto, just that they were working on a similar regulation.

It sounded like the car companies just wanted him to veto it so they could keep reckless drivers as a customer base.

The proposed regulation only kicks in at 10 mph over the speed limit (ie reckless driving and deadly to pedestrians)

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's weird to see 10mph considered reckless driving.

In California, 10mph over is the slow lane.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you hit a pedestrian going 35 on a 25 mph neighborhood street, the majority of the time, that pedestrian will die. Probably closer to like 70% if you're driving a truck. Going 10 over in pedestrian areas kills people.

https://aaafoundation.org/impact-speed-pedestrians-risk-severe-injury-death/

To be fair, going 10 over on a highway isn't as reckless.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

In residential I tend to go around 15-20 instead of the posted 25. I'm almost never in a hurry. I drive a 20 year old 2 seater convertible sports car, not a truck.

I was talking about highways. Posted speeds are 65 for the vast majority of them. Many are 5 lanes in each direction. If you go 65, you will be passed by 99% of traffic, including semi trucks. Most traffic is going 75-80mph and it's not uncommon to have the entire freeway cruising around there. At 65, you may be following the law, but you become an obstacle. I've been on highways on Sundays where traffic is flowing almost at 90mph. And I don't mean a few cars weaving, I mean almost everyone.

California freeways can be nuts.