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The point is debrid can be patchy. I got a bit worked up lol, sorry. But yeah. Debrid is fine for most people, but for someone like who who consumes A LOT of media it does dry up when you get into the road less travelled. If plex shares dries up I will have to get into private trackers and invest in a vpn. But I have no idea how I'm going to make that set up user friendly for the rest of the family. It's gonna be a nightmare.
For what it's worth, it's very easy to accomplish that automation you're looking for. All you want is your server to have your VPN set up to your torrenting client (don't want any leaks!), then there are programs referred to as the *arrs which you simply type {name of media} and it pulls from a list of your needs (for example, pull 1080p, ignore below it) and sorts it for you (for example, push 4k to a separate library). And that's it for you, as from there it's naming what you want and your setup all does the rest.
As for f&fam, Overseer or Omni something. It's a request space they can use and it's automated so you don't have to worry about it.
So if your family can download an app/navigate to a page and type in what they want and be okay with sometimes waiting 30 minutes I think it is a pretty user friendly solution. I also think spending wise over time it does even out. A yearly sub to various steaming services themselves, just 3 for 1 year is already the cost of more than enough storage. Granted, paid options like Usenet or what you guys are talking about are a fair amount cheaper but then you're also still relying on and paying other services.
It's easy as long as you have the hardware... any kind of server is completely undoable for me. I would not be able to keep up any kind of ratio.
The only feasible way for me would be usenet block subscriptions and a 1 tb hard drive, and downloading show by season as I go.
You don't need ratios for any of this. And the hardware is just the cost of what you pay a subscription to?
What you described in the second paragraph is much more work than just setting up Sonarr.
And 1tb will go by too quickly. You want sales on hard drives that you can shuck if you're trying to be cheap and reliable. $100 for 10tb or so. It sounds like you're overthinking and over complicating it. You say the storage and shit is expensive but it's literally cheaper to get an Intel Quicksync PC for $45 and $50 for a 5tb drive. For less than $100 and plugging in 2 cables to the hard drive!
If you use it for a 9 months it pays for itself.
I literally cannot drop $100 on anything lmfao! I know my finances bro🤣. I currently pay $0 for my streaming. I'm poor as shit.
And what you mean I don't need ratios? Of course if I'm gonna use private trackers I need ratios! And also, the idea behind 1 tb is I won't hoard. I'd delete as I watch.
That's fair, I'm with you there. The thread was talking about paying for these services, like some Plex shares ask for donations, Usenet, etc all have paid options that make it faster/whatever. Those are still costs, even if it's smaller $10 monthly ones. They also add up, so setting up your own server is well within that pricerage, which was what I was getting at.
You can set up the *arrs for private trackers and yes you'd want ratio for those to stay in, but you don't need it. 1337 is plenty and anything that's not on there is usually on archive. That's all I use and I like the weird niche stuff. Personally, I don't even use the arr programs, I've set them up and have used them but I just end up doing it the old fashioned way.
Also fair in regards to the delete as you go. That's just our use cases :) I like having my media permanently and I store a fair amount of rare/unusual things as well as any shows I consistently rewatch. At a certain point it was just less work and wear to keep everything than it was to try and manage storage. I mean, I have it anyway, it wrote to the disk, it's more data and read/write loss to delete and redownload than it is to just keep it stored.
Anyway, just putting it out there that running a server doesn't have to be expensive, time consuming, or difficult to have other people use. But like with many things, there's more than one way of doing something and both being perfectly cromulent ways to live.
Yeah, I get what you say, sometimes is better to have full control, especially with older media.
I don't think Plex Server Share are going to die because of Reddit people like to share stuff, for cheap or for free it doesn't matter, more likely they will move somewhere else, I'd check in Discord too, or hopefully they make it here someday.
If it is worth something setting up is only a pain it the ass once, when you have it set up it is a breeze with software as Sonarr, Radarr, Overseerr, Tautulli etc, you can keep using Plex.
You'd need some hardware though, I'd recommend something with Linux I do all of the above and more with a Synology NAS (DS218+), my only problem is the lack of storage.
The problem for me is the hardware. All that storage and shit is just too expensive.
Yeah I get you, especially if you want to host lots of TV shows or reality shows lol.
Sadly I don't see a workaround other than depending on illegal streaming methods like the ones I mentioned or streaming websites (I don't think they would have niche stuff though) or keep trying other Plex Shares... I mean, your current one still alive isn't it?
I'm pretty sure most of the content is retrieved from torrent and maybe usenet, so you need to make some compromises to have it working on your own.