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Strikes inside Russia with US missiles key to Ukraine’s plan to end war, says Zelenskyy
(www.theguardian.com)
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Clearly we need to stop them here. There's no question. And Ukraine should be able to use those missiles.
It's just somewhat worrying that technically those crazies have access to a way to destroy the planet.
I agree
Give Zelensky missiles, I trust him to pick actually good targets and hope it will influence Russia so much they topple Putler if he doesn't surrender. Or even if he does. Russia has had revolutions before, surely one more couldn't be that impossible.
Also, I genuinely do not believe they will do anything about Putin, for a long time.
Russians, are weird. They now see Putin as idempotent to Russia, they are the same thing.
10 years ago things would be different, but now he's just been in charge too long, and he's either the only leader people know, or the only decent leader they know (he was a huge improvement in the 2000s in their opinion, he picked Russia off of the dirt).
It's not just fear of him, Russia fears what they would be without him, they aren't like us, they don't think most people are generally trustworthy and decent, they think everybody other than them is corrupt and cheating, Putin is actually the best of the bunch, and if he's cruel, well you have to be cruel to keep the others in line.
We need to convince him to give up on Ukraine because otherwise they'll be too weak when China decides to start taking bites.
This is a problem.
And if we let them blackmail us into letting them have their way, it won't end, because they really think they need to win to make up for the costs of this war and Ukraine alone won't cover that.
They pulled the trigger on a gun they really should have let alone, the only way this ends well is if everyone understands that was a catastrophic mistake.
Hard agree. Unfortunate as it is. Fucking idiots just couldn't leave it well alone. Well, aside from all the casualties, it's better that it stops here and now instead of the blackmailing and appeasement bullshit.
We do Ukraine, a lot. So let them use the fking missiles.