this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2024
45 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

37717 readers
387 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/20028344

Despite US dominance in so many different areas of technology, we're sadly somewhat of a backwater when it comes to car headlamps. It's been this way for many decades, a result of restrictive federal vehicle regulations that get updated rarely. The latest lights to try to work their way through red tape and onto the road are active-matrix LED lamps, which can shape their beams to avoid blinding oncoming drivers.

From the 1960s, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards allowed for only sealed high- and low-beam headlamps, and as a result, automakers like Mercedes-Benz would sell cars with less capable lighting in North America than it offered to European customers.

A decade ago, this was still the case. In 2014, Audi tried unsuccessfully to bring its new laser high-beam technology to US roads. Developed in the racing crucible that is the 24 Hours of Le Mans, the laser lights illuminate much farther down the road than the high beams of the time, but in this case, the lighting tech had to satisfy both the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Food and Drug Administration, which has regulatory oversight for any laser products.

The good news is that by 2019, laser high beams were finally an available option on US roads, albeit once the power got turned down to reduce their range.

NHTSA's opposition to advanced lighting tech is not entirely misplaced. Obviously, being able to see far down the road at night is a good thing for a driver. On the other hand, being dazzled or blinded by the bright headlights of an approaching driver is categorically not a good thing. Nor is losing your night vision to the glare of a car (it's always a pickup) behind you with too-bright lights that fill your mirrors.

This is where active-matrix LED high beams come in, which use clusters of controllable LED pixels. Think of it like a more advanced version of the "auto high beam" function found on many newer cars, which uses a car's forward-looking sensors to know when to dim the lights and when to leave the high beams on.

Here, sensor data is used much more granularly. Instead of turning off the entire high beam, the car only turns off individual pixels, so the roadway is still illuminated, but a car a few hundred feet up the road won't be.

Rather than design entirely new headlight clusters for the US, most OEMs' solution was to offer the hardware here but disable the beam-shaping function—easy to do when it's just software. But in 2022, NHTSA relented—nine years after Toyota first asked the regulator to reconsider its stance.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bring back yellow lights.
I hate white-blue retina burning lights.

Active-matrix LEDs suck for others outside.
It's not a solution.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly a huge portion of the problem is asshole drivers that just don't turn off their brights and their fog lights or that tailgate the vehicle right in front of them while their headlights are mirror level.

I've seen brand new trucks with LEDs that were so easy on my eyes then I've seen the exact same model of truck via rearview mirror only after I passed it because the lights were beyond blinding.

They need to enforce maximum luminosity laws with an iron first; it's ridiculous that people get away with this stuff.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They also need to move truck headlights lower to the ground. There's absolutely no need for them to be eye level.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 3 points 1 month ago

Honestly it just feels like so much stuff is car hostile at this point... Like I went to leave a store the other day and I couldn't clearly see oncoming traffic because the shrubs were too high and right next to the road.

I wish I could say that was a really uncommon experience.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yep, it's even bad for the driver. Reflective glare off signs shows it well, plus the sharp cutoff means you have high contrast - something is either well-it or totally dark.

Unfortunately lighting regs haven't changed, and I don't know if the research exists that demonstrates what makes for effective vehicle lighting.

If it does, even then we'd have to push it into regs, and you know how much the industry will fight it.

[–] olebla@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The joke with this, is that the drivers think that e.g. blue-white retrofit led produce "more light" and they "can see better". That's why no manufacturer does "warm" led headlights

[–] ninjaphysics@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

The industry's lobby is so pervasive that any regulation will be fought, no matter how small. I don't know what it's going to take to face the numerous harms that we have to address when it comes to cars and driving, but if the industry and regulators won't care about human health and environmental harms, it's just going to keep being bad.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I had a car behind me with LED headlights the other day. When I would look in my rear view mirror, it appeared fine, but if I focused on the road, the refresh rate on the LED's created a strobing effect, which was extremely distracting.

Oh ohh or my other favorite is when people have massive trucks that illuminate your whole car because of their lights. It would be nice if there was a required standard

Edit: Honestly, if it wasn't for urban sprawl, stupidly cold winters, and these massive vehicles with aggressive drivers, I would prefer to just bike.