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[–] ech@lemm.ee 87 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Best thing she could do is publicly disavow twitter for that and move her business elsewhere.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You have to keep posting to Twitter because that's where the people are.

However, if you post to BOTH Twitter and Mastodon, you allow people to move. It wouldn't take many people doing this to start the wave.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 81 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you're Taylor Swift, you can post wherever you want and most Swifties will follow.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I will lose some respect for her if she does continue to use it. She really does not need it and people will indeed follow her elsewhere en masse. I think she's been sitting on her star power a bit too much and could really do some good with it.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Almost all celebrities get to where they are specifically not because they are amazing people. It requires a special kind of mindset to pursue fame and status to such an extent.

[–] kralk@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

She could start a Mastodon instance called "swift social" and charge for access

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 56 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You have to keep posting to Twitter because that's where the people are

No, you don't. Screw Twitter and the people still on it.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

After the ban of Twitter in Brazil my opinion on that matter changed. There's a lot of artist that depend on that hell for work. Is not that simple to change platform. It's easy to move on when your income doesn't depend on it.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except if a huge star like Taylor Swift were to declare a new social media site THE site, it would help get an audience for artists elsewhere.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah only they can do something like that.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You know what? You're right. No artist was able to make a living before Twitter. I don't know what I was thinking.

Here, let's wrap this up.

  1. Some people are making money on Twitter. The vast, vast majority are not. It's easily thousands to one. Those thousands of people have absolutely no argument.

  2. Those that are making a living have a choice to make... continue being hostage to and supporting a platform that actively makes the world worse using the money they obtain from their support, or find an audience the old fashioned way. If you are talented, your audience will find you. I don't buy that you NEED a particular platform. I don't begrudge someone who is making money their decision to stay and keep making it, but you don't get out of it with a squeaky clean "oh well, it is what it is". There are professionals who work for shit companies that do awful things because they understand the evil crap they're supporting and they've accepted that they will be judged for that activity, and the income is their compensation for it. Anyone who stays on Twitter for a living should be prepared for the same judgement. But if that's the case, I hope they're making enough to make it worth it.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the artist that create a small community in a platform with reliable income after a huge pain in the ass work need to redo most of that work in another platform because some rich stupid moron billionaire touch on that platform and transform it into shit. Definitely screw those guys, move on or be judged!

They are the minority but it is still a fucked situation created by a douche.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's not that I don't sympathize, but that IS what happened. The platform is no longer something you can use without carrying that weight. You just can't. Yes, it sucks for them, but people's workflows and ability to do their jobs get disrupted all the time. Factories shut down. Industries get replaced.

Yes, the work is hard, and yes it isn't their fault that this happened. But life isn't fair. The fact is staying with this platform is delivering income to a man who who is running his own judicial review of the laws of democratic countries, just threatened to rape Taylor Swift on an international platform, and thinks the world should be run by incels. Absolutely NO amount of "But I'd have to find a new audience..." changes that. I understand it isn't easy, but sometimes doing the right thing is hard. That doesn't mean you get a pass to not do it. If making the right decisions were easy and involved no personal sacrifice, everyone would do it all the time.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see your point of view, now I know you understand the struggle for them to move on and how fucked up is the situation.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Oh, I do. It isn't easy. But all it takes for evil to win is for good to do nothing.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

You have to keep posting to Twitter because that's where the people are.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 14 points 2 months ago

Taylor Swift is clouted up. She can move away from Twitter and people will follow.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Taylor could make her own site and it'd rival twitter in short order. Society isn't beholden to musk and the sooner people realize that, the sooner we can leave him in the dust.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

She could investigate whatever the hell happened to https://mozilla.social and see if she could get that off the ground.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Twitter is only populated because that's where the creators are. If the creators leave, the people will follow.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

Yep. And it's okay to say "when" here.

There's no one-in-a-million magical future timeline where Elmo stops enshitifying Xitter and it rallies to remain relevant.

It's just a matter of how long inertia carries folks before Xitter joins the Sears catalog.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Does she even use twitter? The announcement was made on her instagram.