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[–] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 86 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Do plants die of old age though? Now that question has been put in my head, I need to know.

Be back in a bit, going down a rabbit hole.

[–] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Given the right conditions, some plants can live indefinitely. Others die shortly after seeding.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 23 points 2 months ago

There's a bristlecone pine tree in the White Mountains of California that is nearly 5000 years old.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Depends how you look at it. If you keep raising off-shoots from cuttings, you are essentially producing extensions of the very same plant and you can do that indefinitely. Think about it like cloning: an individual plant will eventually die, but it's clone will survive and can still propagate.

Plants are not biologically immortal like some lobsters for example.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tell me more about these lobsters

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Chromosomes are essentially packages of DNA and each end of a chromosome is extended by a protein called telomere, essentially sequences of "junk data" that protect the actual data (the DNA) from degradation or randomly fusing with other chromosomes. When cells split to renew, these telomeres are not fully copied to the new cell and thus shorten with each split. When they get too short, cells cannot split anymore, so there is a natural end to the renewal process (the so-called Hayflick limit).

Lobsters possess an enzyme called telomerase which can repair telomeres and thus their cells can, in theory, divide indefinitely. They will still die naturally tho due to diseases or growing too large to sustain their body size and die of malnutrition, but they don't age the way we do.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

That was super interesting, thanks for the response

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 18 points 2 months ago

Vine plants are especially weird.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Should we send someone after him?

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

Dammit, this is why you always secure your lifeline before entering the Rabbit Hole

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

You gotta tell us some fun things you learned!

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

Subscribe to plant facts

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

wait until you get to the part about the Ginkgo tree

It is the horseshoe crab of trees