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[–] Lime66@lemmy.world 111 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Since spiderman was used as an example I'll list the villains for the newer spider man films, you tell me where the films are promoting the status quo:

Homecoming: a group of criminals who stole incredibly advanced weapons and used them to terrorize communities in new york.

Far from home: a guy gets really pissed that some technology that he made for a company was property of the company, starts endangering civilians to make him look like a hero.

No way home: Classic spider man villains from other universes come to this Spiderman's universe, spider man tries to help them improve themselves and there lives

This comic is just a "quit having fun" but with leftist pandering

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 62 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Homecoming: Blue collar workers are told they're fired and replaced by billionaire Tony Stark's new government backed company, Haliburton. I mean Defence Force or something. System failed them so they said fuck it.

Far From Home: Billionaire's company steals invention of his employee and passes it off as his own. Makes more billions. Dozens of the employees quit to support employee's new plans of taking back his tech and usurping Billionaire's world dominance. System failed them so they said fuck it.

No Way Home: Literally just a movie about how Spiderman and the system failed these "villains" who really just needed support with mental health and navigating a shit system.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Yes and it's also about how all that doesn't justify killing people.

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago

I'll give you the first two, even if neither one was at all constructive or even radical about it. (Neither of them were really trying to change the system, just to abuse it for themselves after being told they couldn't succeed inside of it).

The third one is practically the antithesis of this comic.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If we want to argue the other way:

Homecoming: Tony Stark fucks over a bunch of union workers, leading them into a life of crime to support their families.

Far From Home: Tony Stark fucks over a fellow scientist, dismissing his lifes work as a party trick and tanking his career, the scientist then uses his technology to make himself appear as a hero and save his reputation.

No Way Home: Spider Man condemns four out of five men to die in their home universe, attempting to rehabilitate them and reverse their powers before their eventual deaths.

[–] Lime66@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

and if we want to argue the other other way:

Homecoming: tony stark decides to actually help clean up after himself for once instead of making the citizens of new york pay for it (many of whom are homeless after the events of "avengers"). Some union workers start to destroy small businesses and kill people because of that

Far from home: A guy kills people because his invention wasn't respected as much as he would prefer

No way home: spider man destroys his whole life and sacrifices 4 people who he tried to help for the sake of all life in the multiverse

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Homecoming: tony stark decides to actually help clean up after himself for once instead of making the citizens of new york pay for it (many of whom are homeless after the events of "avengers"). Some union workers start to destroy small businesses and kill people because of that

This reminds me of the situation where people thought they were doing good by sending free food and clothes to underserved African populations, but it turns out it was putting their local manufacturers out of business.

Far from home: A guy kills people because his invention wasn't respected as much as he would prefer

Billionaire names the employee's invention "BARF" craps all over it, then uses it for himself

No way home: spider man destroys his whole life and sacrifices 4 people who he tried to help for the sake of all life in the multiverse

Why was the multiverse in trouble again?

[–] Lime66@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Not sure if it was the multiverse or just one universe, but it was due to large amounts of multiversal travel, caused by spiderman annoying Dr strange while he was casting a spell, which resulted in villains being brought over from other universes.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Would it be a life of crime or lives of crime?