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A sovcit FAFO. (lemmy.world)
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[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ever hear one of these guys babbling in front of a cop/judge? They think by speaking the exact phrase of faux-legal gibberish they can magically unlock "immunity from law". They just repeat the same phrase in as many different word combinations as possible desperately searching for the right incantation

It never works but being impervious to reality or reason is basically the hill they are willing to die on in order to gain online clout with a niche group of weirdos who for some reason trigger the dopamine receptors in their glass-smooth brains by feeling collectively intransigent together

[-] corroded@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I've never understood this. Even if they are absolutely convinced that they're right, you can go watch 1000 videos of judges and cops who are wholly unimpressed with their gibberish. They might be convinced they know a hidden truth, but what good is it when the established institutions don't recognize it as truth?

My theory is that they're just lacking in reasoning skills. How else would you become a sovcit in the first place? If their arguments were effective, every lawyer in the country would be using them.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

But they do see that this works. They see the rich and famous getting out (often on bail, but who cares about details?) on technicalities, and think they can do it as well. They fail to appreciate, of course, all the expertise and all the legwork that these lawyers needed in order to find these loopholes for their clients.

[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's the same proud ignorance that makes people think they know more than scientists about medicine and the climate, or that they could win in a fight against a bear

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

you can go watch 1000 videos of judges and cops who are wholly unimpressed with their gibberish

Okay but what if I told you that's all a big trick to make you think it won't work?

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

They don't say it, they don't even acknowledge it themselves, but they view this in the same way a credulous middle ages individual would view making a deal with the fey. The right set of words, the right incantation, will grant you power over them whether they want to acknowledge it or not.

That's the mental image they have. If you ask them how these secret laws are enforced and what actually obligates the judges, police, government, etc to follow the rules, they won't admit the magical thinking, though they will babble and make up nonsense that sounds, to them, like genuine explanations but is in truth gibberish.

At the end, though, that's what they're doing...they're chanting mystical incantations that will bind the Queen of the Faeries to their will and prevent the fae from doing harm upon them or impeding them.

But they don't even take the cautionary parts of the tales to heart, for even if you should succeed on pulling one over on the Faeries, they are wily and patient, and someday they will trick you into giving up the protection you thought was unbreakable. Just as even if they actually managed to stumble upon the correct legal maneuver, it is likely the system will be back to get them one way or another.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Have you seen the Darryl Brooks trial? The dude murdered 20 people by driving into a Wisconsin Christmas parade and tried to sov cit his way out of it.

He failed. He’s on 6 life sentences for it. It’s not magic law immunity and the FAFO on that one was great to watch.

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