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I think we really just need to remove the burden of having to work yourself to death just to pay for the existence you didnt ask for.
Which is why UBI or other similar strategies are becoming popular again. Ive thought a lot about this recently and we have too large or a system that depends entirely too much on transactions of money because it is a much easier way to trade goods and services as opposed to some kind of bartering system.
But money and power corrupt everything over a long enough period of time. Massive turmoil can short circuit that as in times of crisis where values can shift greatly.
I think the systems we rely on can't really be dismantled at this point. We need to create an equilibrium before we can start that dismantling of useless,broken,restrictive,unethical, ways in which we transact with other people.
UBI should be used as the mechanism to achieve that equilibrium so that everyone can use the system. If we arent able to financially exploit people anymore than the people will be able to live for the themselves.
Not everyone will want to use that opportunity for self improvement, and we need to work to build a system that lets people not have to be a part of it while it still provides for them to live their unasked for existence in much more meaningful manner.
No, it can't be dismantled and it won't, no one will allow it. Not corps or people... especially now since we can clearly see right winged individuals and parties all over the world rise to power.
The solution is to wipe the slate clean, start from scratch, make an economy where the core values are nature and how we are tied to it, i.e. the basics are, if it doesn't do good, neither do we. I'm not a green piece advocate or anything like that. I'm just pointing out the facts - WE NEED IT TO SURVIVE! Thus, it has to be our no.1 priority, everything else is secondary.
My 2 cents...
And we have tried to clean the slate many times throughout history, but we always get back to where we are. And it will probably work, but i dont think we can until we weaken this digitally reinforced system this time. I think it needs to be broken more before we can get rid of it and the mechanism to breaking it is very simple, we the people need to use the system as much as the corpos do.
So if we keep money circulating and OUT of investment, we gain power again over finances. Maybe not enough to reverse the problems, but enough that we CAN get to a clean slate.
I think it will take a world war that changes the maps forever to happen any other way, which i think would be worse for too many people who wont survive. If this was in ukraine hasnt already shown us
We've never been so close to wiping ourselves out in history as we are now...
Agree on the part that we need to show how broken it is by breaking it even more. That is something that is viable as an option and might work if given enough time and people push towards it... which I think they will, since it's fairly easy and they might even profit from it... a good idea 👍.
This is what eventually needs to happen IMO. I stopped saying this because people called me crazy, but a true clean slate is exactly this. A few million left alive, everyone else gone... unfortunately, if we even have a chance to wake up and realize what we need to survive as a species, is exactly this and nothing else. Yes, I agree, a lot of collateral damage, which could have been avoided, but god knows the signs were there... people were warned, nature warned us, everyone did... we didn't listen... let's just hope the new world order will eventually put an emphasis on values that we now see as weakness in people.