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[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You make a good case. In my more simple case, I need efficient and smart looking PowerPoints and no foss alternative can beat office 2016. And dozens of programs are windows only. I've tinkered with wine/play on Linux before and it just doesn't work out of the box for the majority of programs.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Yes and people sell Linux to my like "either it works out of the box or it takes like 1google search" and that's polar opposite from my longer experience on Linux.

For work I had to set up an Ubuntu VM. Ubuntu is one of the most stable OS variants. But: it literally started throwing system application errors after 2h from a fresh install. We thought it was a one time thing or that we did something wrong so we tried again. The OS disk image was official and our VM Software was Virtual box. Both are supposed to be stable. And still, the OS started crying 2h in every time.

Or another time where I had to find scanner drivers and I lost it. 5h of searching and tinkering, I had to rewrite scripts I found which didn't work, had to add package manager repositories to my system, and try to look for 15y+ old forum posts which get very technical but also not really in depth. For a fucking scanner.

And then that time aI wanted to install some software (I think maybe Skype) from the official Ubuntu store. But it just wouldn't work. Everyone else apparently had no issues online. Everyone except for me. Tried to install it through downloading an archive and when that didn't work I installed it through the terminal apt-get. It still wouldn't work iirc.

Or that time I had an Ubuntu VM for like half a year and applications started to hang and the system started getting random issues.

Or that time Linux system just threw errors on every system upgrade (same happened to updates).

This is a reoccurring thing and this toxic Linux positivity will only make more people mad when things are not as promised and they realize they are fucked.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

My most recent example with EndeavorOS was trying out KDE which I thought looked really smart on the desktop. Then it started glitching. Arch tends to be bleeding edge so that makes sense. But it meant I had to make a new choice of distribution or DE.

But Debian based Ubuntu? On Virtualbox? That seems a bit off. Maybe LTS would provide the stability you need.

I guess because development is decentralised, that you end up with developers working on different packages and when they update one it has a ripple effect on other packages.

[–] amanda@aggregatet.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The or part in that statement is really what kills you, as you sort of imply. You spend five hours almost getting your scanner to work, some times, unreliably.

That’s a worse outcome than the scanner refusing to work entirely in many cases.