Indeed, and just as my old team fell for consultants, my new team also went ahead and let them add some overcomplex garbage into their codebases. And crap still keeps piling up. It's just like it's impossible for them to understand that from an average consultants perspective the only way to go forward is to keep adding complexity, wether they are aware of it or not.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, the consultants know, but they get paid, don't complain about "risks" and "code debt", and management only sees their delivery on time without increasing operation costs

[–] TheCee@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

This. However, in our specific scenario dynamics were even slightly worse. In a first meeting said consultants apparently met some resistance but management decided to go through with it anyway. So in a later meeting, if I was the consultant, would I go and claim "Alright, I fucked up, got paid and got you gaslighted, but now we have to refactor to clean up our codebase with no immediate tangible benefit for your bosses" in front of everyone? Honestly, I don't think so.