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[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I've read the one for fakespot. Given what it's designed to do then having your purchase history makes perfect sense. How else are they meant to make recommendations? If you really have a problem just don't use that service. The only real criticism here is the name doesn't imply they also make product recommendations. Nevertheless they explain that on the website.

I have skimmed the pocket one, and as far as I can tell they aren't doing anything dodgy. Keeping information only to provide the service, and some anonymised analytics to see how it's actually being used. The later is needed to direct development effort.

In summary: Not everyone is out to get you. Some information is needed to provide services.

Edit: sorry for there different comments, wanted to come back and do more research before I finished making a statement.

[–] fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, no problem at all. This is a lot better than people downvoting and not actually talking about what they disagree on. Felt like r/apple.

Reading it again, Pocket's privacy policy is actually not that bad. Thankfully it was not one of those 100 page ones that are made to confuse the shit out of consumers, but I have a slight problem with it.

"Personalized Advertising: Some Pocket web pages have ads. With your consent, Pocket’s ad partners will place advertising cookies on your device to personalize the ads you see here and on other websites."

How does this consent exactly work? Is it just a simple check you have to tick in your account settings, or is it one of those cookie banners that require you to untick 800 advertising partners to "not give consent"? I'm not exactly a Pocket user so I'm a bit ignorant about it.

Though there doesn't seem to be another privacy concern with Pocket. It seems I had misconceptions about their practices.

The one other problem I have with Pocket though is, it's not a feature that should be in a browser, it should be an extension. They have already made a lot of extensions for features that not all of the userbase might need, even FakeSpot is currently an extension (approximately 40,000 users). I guess this is a whole another argument though.

I will write my thoughts about FakeSpot in another reply.

[–] fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, what does a sweepstake or a contest have to do with a browser extension, made to spot fake reviews. Trade shows? What?

I did take a look at this privacy policy before to check if the extension was worth installing, but holy fuck I didn't see that.

And they collect a lot of things, supposedly "automatically". I have never developed a browser extension, but does the browser force this information on the extension? Do they just look at their data collection and find the geolocation of their users, how they accessed the extension download page, browser specifics etc.?

They also sell your "automatically collected" geolocation data, "internet or other electronic network activity", "inferences drawn from other personal information to create a profile about a consumer", and "commercial information". I've quoted the three data selling points I really don't understand, since their "descriptions" aren't very descriptive. But if we are to fully trust the lawful descriptions they provided, I hope the extension stays at 40,000 users really.

FakeSpot's privacy policy

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A lot of this is the same kind of things amazon do to make purchase suggestions. It is fairly invasive but also effective. There are even some customers who appreciate this kind of thing. I will say though that the name is misleading. It dosen't just spot fakes, it seems to be designed as a shopping assitant or search engine who's stand out feature is pointing out fakes. I think there is a place in the market for such a thing, but they need to be careful of how they market that and what data is actually needed to be collected. Ideally they should put in a system where you can opt in to personalised recommendations and collect data for only those people who require that feature. It also needs to be spelled out clearly what this involves in terms of data collected and who sees the data. Regardless I don't think it should be enabled by default in Firefox. Including it in the browser isn't so bad provided they don't get up to microsoft-like shenanigans pushing people to use it.