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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.

I think it's been that way for longer than people think. Remember when Wagner just rolled through Russia without any resistance? Putin's might has always been false promises/ blackmail, but it's obvious now that Russia hasn't had the means to back itself up for a while now

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Prigozhin should have waited to betray Russia until Ukraine was in a position like this.

Seems like he was an idiot, though. IDK what level of delusional hubris one needs to be on to travel to Moscow after an attempt such as that.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With how it went down he was mainly an idiot for standing down. Idk how he imagined that ending

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it might have been dissatisfaction of his troops that lead to the coup. He knew it would not work out, so he tried to bail out quickly. He should have probably just left the country never to return.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Once he started he had two options: continue until the end and maybe die trying or just die. For some reason he opted for the second one.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nazis have now assumed marching on Moscow would work out for them twice, maybe it's just a related mental defect.

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The fact that people like you can rationalize the Kremlin's far-right, proto-fascist ideology as some sort of anti-Nazi movement is just more proof that the biggest threat to humanity is ingorance combined with a near-infinite potential for self-serving delusions. We desperately need to reform our formal education systems and limit the impact of authoritarian propaganda as much as possible, and from there the number of victims, like Dragon.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, Prigozhin was a Nazi you dingus, it's why he named it Wagner.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

No idea why you're downvoted. Pringles and Waganr were 100% Nazi-adjacent

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

To add: he was Russian, not Ukrainian.