I get what you're saying and I still begrudgingly tip every time unless the service is terrible which is rare. But if people boycott these businesses instead of going and not tipping wouldn't that be just as bad if not worse for service workers than not tipping at all?

For example, if 80 percent of the people who regularly patronize restaurants stopped going, wouldn't a lot of these businesses close resulting in these people losing their jobs entirely? It's not a likely scenario but it's an interesting thought experiment.

[–] null@slrpnk.net -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's a lot of mental gymnastics to do to justify supporting businesses that engage in practices you claim to be against.

Let them close and let new businesses with better practices take their place.

Really think about what you're saying here: that continuing to support these businesses, but fucking over the staff is the moral high-ground.

[–] hydroxycotton@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're assuming that it's my responsibility to directly pay these people's wages. I do but it's a dumb argument that I disagree with. "let the businesses close and new ones open with better practices" is tantamount to saying "let these people find better jobs that don't rely on tips to make a somewhat livable wage."

[–] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're assuming that it's my responsibility to directly pay these people's wages.

It's part of the current cost structure if you choose to go out and have your meal made for you and served to you. Don't like it, don't eat there. Simple as.

is tantamount to saying "let these people find better jobs that don't rely on tips to make a somewhat livable wage."

No, it's literally saying let bad business die and better businesses replace them. The rest is your bullshit spin so you can feel better about fucking over wait staff.

[–] hydroxycotton@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I tip and tip well when I patronize these businesses. You seem to defend the business owners while placing all the blame on this fictional group of people that are gleefully "fucking over wait staff." Also your tone is really hostile and confrontational.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You seem to defend the business owners

Please quote me doing that.

And yes, being proud of fucking over wait staff (I have many friends that are servers) makes me terse. What a shocker.