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Seeing that Uncle Bob is making a new version of Clean Code I decided to try and find this article about the original.

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[-] realharo@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why is it a void method? This only tells me that some state is mutated somewhere, but the effect is neither visible nor documented.

I would expect a function called "calculate" to just return a number and not have any side effects.

[-] dandi8@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago

You're nitpicking.

As it happens, it's just an example to illustrate specifically the "extract to method" issues the author had.

Of course, in a real world scenario we want to limit mutating state, so it's likely this method would return a Commission list, which would then be used by a Use Case class which persists it.

I'm fairly sure the advice about limiting mutating state is also in the book, though.

At the same time, you're likely going to have a void somewhere, because some use cases are only about mutatimg something (e.g. changing something in the database).

[-] realharo@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not nitpicking, stuff like this is far more impactful than choosing between 5 lines vs 10 lines long methods, or whether the hasExtraCommissions "if" belongs inside or outside of calculateExtraCommissions. This kind of thing should immediately jump out at you as a red flag when you're reading code, it's not something to handwave away as a detail.

[-] dandi8@fedia.io -5 points 1 month ago

I never claimed it's not important, I'm just saying it's not relevant here, as there is no context to where this method was put in the code.

As I said, it might be top-level. You have to mutate state somewhere, because that's what applications ultimately do. You just don't want state mutations everywhere, because that makes bad code.

[-] BatmanAoD@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

The whole book is like this, though, and these are specifically supposed to be examples of "good" code. The rewritten time class toward the end, a fully rewritten Java module, is a nightmare by the time Martin finishes with it. And I'm pretty sure it has a bug, though I couldn't be bothered to type the whole thing into an editor to test it myself.

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