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[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'd pay for a browser if it wouldn't sell my data.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't mind paying for a browser, but I'm not thrilled with the idea of subscribing to a browser.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

people pay for a search engine, they would subscribe for a browser if it does what they want

if Mozilla bundles a private, secure and well packaged browser with a good search engine and this browser performs well while still providing the current version for free, there's a certain minority who would be compelled to pay for it

atm, a browser and search engine is the major gateway to the internet, google has always done that at the cost of the user being a product, but it is now fucking that up and an alternative is needed, Mozilla could and should step in for that

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If a product requires constant maintaining and updates through out its lifetime (like a browser) then it's make sense for a subscription model.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If a product is released in a defective or malfunctioning state, it makes sense to assign liability to the manufacturer.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

if it's a single player game or a mp3 converter software, then what you're saying is true.

But the internet is ever changing, new exploits and security vulnerabilities are discovered almost every day. New standards, new formats, new features released so often, even after the full release it still requires a full development team instead of just a few core maintenance staff.

Unless you want to pay for every major version upgrade or risk using an outdated browser, a browser subscription model doesn't sound so bad.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the internet is ever changing

We have standard protocols for communication that are system agnostic and simple to implement.

Claiming you need a subscription to your browser to use the Internet is akin to claiming you need a subscription to your radio to listen to music.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Radio gets revenue from advertisers, just like Firefox gets money from Google. If you cut off that revenue and move the cost to the consumer, then there's no "one time payment" that could support a radio station indefinitely, so does Firefox.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Radio gets revenue from advertisers, just like Firefox gets money from Google.

Private For-Profit Radio Stations get revenue from advertisement. But Sony and JBP and Bose aren't advertisement based. Mozilla isn't a content provider, its an application developer.

there’s no “one time payment” that could support a radio station indefinitely

There's no "one time payment" that supports radio manufacturers indefinitely, either. So the companies develop new models and improved features, then retail them as replacements to the old device. But I've got an old machine from the 1980s that picks up AM/FM just fine. Sony isn't out of business because it continues to exist.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

maybe firefox forks already do the trick for you, i've heared there are plenty free ones. no need to pay, but maybe donations are very welcome. also a complete open source solution that is ready to be compiled by anyone could also be patched by anyone for himself to disable a feature heshex dislikes or such.

welcome to free adult world ;-)