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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is it though? It just legitimizes it as a reason to separate her from other women. Until I see "So-and-So's cis-gendered hetero daughter" I think we can agree it's singling them out, not highlighting something in good faith. For example, and this is the BBC's:

Elon Musk: Billionaire's daughter cuts ties with her father | BBC

She's a woman, who from what I can see is emancipated from her father. He's a sack of shit, she's voicing that. That's the story.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That doesn’t explain why. And the why here is important. Essential.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He didn't lose a son because she is transgender. He lost a child because he's a shitty father. And he thinks he lost a son because he is also a transphobe who refuses to accept her daughter. The why isn't her gender, the why is Musks transphobia and shitty parenting.

IMO if you want to normalize trans people you should treat them like people and not stick a huge "transgender" sign above them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If a lazy American just reads that Musk's daughter disowned him, they're not going to understand why and they will be less inclined to read on. I'm afraid that's just how things are.

[–] tacticalsugar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Headlines don't typically contain the entire context. You have to actually read the article for the why.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And Americans often don't read past the headlines.

[–] tacticalsugar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's not what we're talking about.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seems to me like that's exactly what we're talking about- explaining things simply to lazy Americans.

[–] tacticalsugar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We're talking about whether or not it's dehumanizing to constantly other trans people in a way that doesn't apply to cis people. You kinda seem like you just want an argument though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It looks more like what you were talking about than what anyone else was talking about:

On top of that, the person I initially responded to agreed with my point.

[–] tacticalsugar@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

That's absolutely not how that expression is used. At all.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

I think a big difference here is that you keep saying that this legitimizes him or his behaviour. That does not seem at all obvious to many of us.

Pointing out these facts provides context for those of us that don’t know. I do not believe it legitimizes anything. If you see it that way, you are probably on the extreme end of the issue ( either side ).

This is not an accusation. I can feel your genuine concern that it legitimizes his statements. I want to reassure you that it does not. The people that will take it as evidence of legitimacy do not need a reason to feel right. So who cares what they think?

It never would have occurred to me that her gender or gender history somehow supported Elon Musk until you started to say so.