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    [–] RootAccess@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Out of curiosity: Which operating system(s) can you shutdown while the kernel is being overwritten? I wouldn't imagine that as a limitation of Arch Linux specifically.

    [–] technocat@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I think fedora would survive this abuse. It doesn't replace when you install kernels, but instead adds it.

    [–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Also Fedora ships 3 kernels by default. If one breaks, maybe the others will keep working.

    [–] zloubida@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    With Manjaro you choose how much kernels you want.

    [–] aniki@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Arch let's you install kernels till /boot is full...

    [–] RootAccess@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

    Yes. I have it set up this way. I forgot it wasn't the default. For the amount of headache it would solve, I wonder if the Arch team has a specific reason for not keeping a number of previous kernels by default.

    [–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 3 months ago

    Ubuntu (and probably Debian too) will keep an old kernel in your grub list so you can boot off that one if needed.

    [–] chevy9294@monero.town 12 points 3 months ago

    Arch Linux with 2 kernels ;)

    [–] palordrolap@kbin.run 11 points 3 months ago

    Mint definitely keeps a couple of previous kernels around, so that might be a Debian and Ubuntu thing too.

    That said, there's always going to be a critical point of failure that a power loss could cause things to break, no matter your OS or distro.

    Writing the bootloader or updating a partition table for example.

    [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

    Anything running on a copy-on-write filesystem can trivially rollback changes using a rescue partition.

    I also expect most immutable distros would be able to be especially good at tanking this.

    [–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 months ago

    I assume NixOs would just let you load a previous working configuration if the current one got corrupted (though in this case it probably could simply rebuild the current one).

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Windows

    Goes back to a previous restore point

    [–] RootAccess@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

    I haven't used Windows since Win7 - Is it possible nowadays to immediately cancel a kernel-level upgrade (say, Win7 to Win8) and have it gracefully stop and then boot into the pre-upgrade environment? If so, then Windows has come a long way. We use to be careful breathing-too-loudly around Windows computers during the upgrade process. Microsoft must be getting better.