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"Don't confuse the Putin regime with Russia", say exchanged Russian prisoners. "There are many people in Russia who oppose Putin's war in Ukraine." --- [video, 2min] (invidious.privacyredirect.com)

submitted 3 months ago by tardigrada@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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Russian opposition activists, who were released on Thursday as part of a historic prisoner exchange, are calling on the world to distinguish between the Russian people and its president.

"Don't believe the lies spread by Kremlin propaganda," says freed Russian dissident Vladimir Kara-Murza.

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[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Not enough to “do something” about it though.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Do what, exactly? It's the same story all over the world, including China and USA.

It takes a lot to make people actively rebel. And then what do you do afterwards? Very few normal people wants to rule a country and they sure as shit don't want risk dying or worse in the attempt.

I'm just saying that you're unlikely to see the Russians do it before you do it yourselves.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, Little Tommy Crooks did something. He just wasn’t very competent at it.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

USA has quite the history of shooting their presidents. But for some reason it doesn't seem to change anything.

So it kinda makes sense that others would be hesitant to attempt the same when the results are so poor.

[–] Approbate@mastodon.social 1 points 3 months ago

@Faydaikin @cynthorpe The failed attempts obviously had poor outcomes. The successful ones, well what exactly are you measuring?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

...before you do it yourselves.

Are you suggesting the west should invade Russia to remove Putin?

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Overthrowing your own government.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We just did, though a democratic vote.

In situations where that's not an option it has to be done in other ways.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Engaging in the democratic process and overhrowing a government aren't quite the same thing. But I'm guessing you're perfectly aware of this.

And when it comes to toppling a man like Putin, method matters.

Just straight up killing a person like him will likely have consequenses. And not the "sunshine and rainbows" kind.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Classic armchair language.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago

You’re not wrong.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago

Especially not if you ask them if the occupied regions should be returned to Ukraine.