Lol this dude sounds super out of touch. There are a whole lot of societal and economic factors around the '00s and '10s that are likely contributing.

Fuggin' "cellphones" sounds like a typical boomer answer.

Also, there is likely some lag time between a population's perception of traumatic or disturbing events and the onset of despair. I know that learning more about the financial crises around the late '00s did not help my mental health and only really occurred some time after in the mid '10s as people had time to analyze the root causes of these issues.

The continual deathmarch of climate change, growing awareness of the exploitation of the working class, and the reactionary violence and hate bred by right wing fanatics and politicians which surged beginning in the early '10s are all contenders for massive, culturally debilitating, trends. Lol "cellphones".

Smart phones and social media are obviously amplifiers of these issues and are part of the problem, but the quote is remarkably reductive and does not address the root cause of what makes the information communicated through cell phones and social media so disheartening. Maybe we are given poor context for the quote and maybe it was something Blanchflower said in passing during the interview, but, still, not a good look.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You act like social media is just providing access to the unfortunate state of the world rather than using manipulative algorithms to drive engagement by only showing the most inflammatory content. Whether it is technically factual or out right misinformation it only shows that which creates a strong emotional response thus only showing the worst the world has to offer. The fact you believe that is reality just goes to show how effective it is at creating despair.

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I totally agree that social media is a manipulative lens based on those engagement algorithms. I definitely see that as having amplified these issues (and in many cases, misrepresented and confused, as you said, which also drives despair and conflict).

I also didn't mean to sound extremely dour in the first place, there are, of course, some aspects of society and progress worth celebrating, and I'm not particularly unhappy, so much as worried for others, myself.

The reality and perception of existential threats like climate change, violence, and exploitation is no doubt amplified by the lens of social media, but I would argue that those pressures would still be felt, regardless of that amplification, leading me to see them as the root causes.

I also agree that social media in general is another root cause, but argue that just throwing that out there as "the" root cause, as Bellflower does in his quote, is reductive and looks out of touch.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Perhaps I misinterpreted your comment. You are correct that thinking the world would be perfect without social media is pretty juvenile thinking.