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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There are always two paths to take - take away all of humanity’s tools or aggressively police people who abuse them. No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it, and for society to function properly we have to do something about the delinquent minority of society.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it,

Hydraulic press channel guy offended you somehow? I'm missing something here.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

No, just an example. But if you’ve ever noticed the giant list of safety warnings on industrial machinery, you should know that every single one of those rules was written in blood.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes other bodily fluids.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

The machines need to be oiled somehow.

[–] superminerJG@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

🤨 vine boom

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

Either Darwin awards or assholes, most likely. Those warnings are written due to fear of lawsuit.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

However this tool doesn't have any safety warnings written on it. The App they used specifically caters for use-cases like this. They advertise to use it unmorally and we have technology to tell age from pictures for like 10 years. And they deliberately chose to have their tool generate pictures of like 13 yo girls. In the tool analogy that's like selling a jigsaw that you're very well aware of, misses some well established safety standards and is likely to injure someone. And it's debatable whether it was made to cut wood anyways, or just injure people.
And the rest fits, too. No company address, located in some country where they can't be persecuted... They're well aware of the use-case of their App.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they're offended. I think they're saying that a tool is a tool. A gun or AI are only dangerous if misused, like a hydraulic press.

We can't go around removing the tools because some people will abuse them. Any tool can kill someone.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Guns have no other purpose though, they shouldn't be lumped in with the rest of that list (except hunting rifles and so on, for folks that actually need them).

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's purposely obtuse. Of course guns have a purpose, you even listed one.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not sure why I keep trying to talk about this with Americans, my bad. You're completely right!

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure, get needlessly antagonistic, provoke a response, decide to run from the confrontation you caused, and I'm the childish one. Fuck outta here.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Rofl you just lost

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We could also do a better job of teaching people from childhood not to be assholes.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

That's been working fine...

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Guns do not belong in the list. Guns are weapons, not tools. Don't bother posting some random edge case that accounts for approximately 0.000001% of use. This is a basic category error.

Governments should make rules banning and/or regulating weapons.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (34 children)

Weapons are tools, by strict definition, and there are legitimate uses for them. Besides, my point was that they should be regulated. In fact, because they are less generally useful than constructive tools, they should be regulated far MORE strictly.

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