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Signal under fire for storing encryption keys in plaintext on desktop app (stackdiary.com)

submitted 4 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Matrix or xmpp, bonus points with a personal server

Thanks to interest of late, the conversations and gajim apps have come a long way in recent years, and matrix has made good strides too with element-x

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd tried matix but without a high level of technical experience it was pretty difficult to setup. I got as far as docker, that needed ansible, that wouldn't compile. I also recall there was services I could pay for, but then I'd rely on them to provide the security/servers.

Matrix doesn't seem for the majority of people taking a first step away from big tech.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Snikket is meant to be super simple to self-host. Ejabberd has a web GUI that can make configuration easier.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I would only ever suggest matrix if you're running a private self-hosted instance that is NOT federated, which you can do even easier with Signal anyways.

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's fine, but why?

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It is a privacy and GDPR nightmare, basically all federated services right now are.

https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/blob/master/part1/README.md

https://web.archive.org/web/20240611200030/https://hackea.org/notas/matrix.html

https://anarc.at/blog/2022-06-17-matrix-notes/

https://web.archive.org/web/20210804205638/https://serpentsec.1337.cx/matrix

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Looked into anarc blog. What there wss said about Matrix can be said about SMTP and probably XMPP. To do GDPR you need to know every server you have sent message to. And compared to IRC defaults(forward and remove) anything will look like GDPR nightmare. GDPR was not designed for federated(like matrix and activitypub) communications and especially wasn't designed for peer-to-peer communications.

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

Interesting, thanks for the links I'll take a look

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

bonus points with a personal server

Only with appservices. Doesn't make sense otherwise.