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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 44 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not even the door locks are mechanical? So much built-in obsolescence...

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago

Idiocracy was a prophetic movie, with everything working, eh, like this and planes falling.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I haven't has a car with mechanical locks in a long time. I've also not had a battery so dead the locks didn't work.

[–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There's usually some sort of mechanical release for safety for stuff like this.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

On the mach E, my understanding is there's a panel where you hook up a jump box that supplies power to those circuits to allow you to use your key fob to open the door. But there's no bladed key to manually unlock the car. So technically there's a failsafe but it's not ideal. And I agree it ought not be allowed.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

how the fuck are you going to put power into the thing if you don't have a charged battery

what the fuck is wrong with putting a door handle somewhere

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a little panel you can use the uncut key blade to pop out and a power and ground wire in them that's accessible outside the vehicle. Of course that requires you to have a jump box or another car and some leads. I don't know who needs to hear this but stay real close to civilization if you drive one of these. Don't get stranded in no man's land.

Yeah, not buying that kind of nonsense. I hate how defensively I have to think when buying a car. This and electronic ebrakes really bother me.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that's fucking stupid, and requires the electronics to not be damaged in whatever emergency situation you've found yourself in to require this external battery override solution.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From inside sure, most cars have an override in the handle. It doesn't change the lockout problem.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago

From the outside it is with a key.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I have a Toyota where the electronic part of one door has completely failed. It still opens. You shouldn't have to break out of your own car.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

My wife's EV has a tiny key that comes out of the dongle, and has a tiny hidden keyhole under the handle.

I had to Google to find it, but it's sufficient if power is out. It's a mechanical lock mechanism like cars have had for a century. As it should be.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is, people are just stupid, can't be bothered to read, or even wonder what that lever literally right on the door handle is for.

Edit: turns out this is only in the M3, the Y, X, And CT are all designed by absolute idiots, and i joined them by not looking into all models

[–] slayback@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s definitely also in the X.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but it's hidden behind the speaker Grill rather than just right on the door handle all the other models also have some type of covering or otherwise have hidden it it seems only the model 3 decided to put it in a very obvious spot

[–] slayback@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No, it’s the exact same as the model 3.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Owners manual says it's behind some kinda grill on the x, at least that's what's coming up when I search for it