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[โ€“] downpunxx@fedia.io 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

when push comes to shove, local government will either do the right thing (like this), or put their cities on a ticking clock to disaster and implosion. people need places to live. workers need to live where the work is. if only tourists are able to afford to stay in cities, those places will die.

[โ€“] Badeendje@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And normal housing is not a hotel. If you have people that rent a room or something and you are there you keep an eye out and make sure they behave. Can you imagine your neighboring house or appartment becoming a party flat with people that don't care how loud they are.

[โ€“] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If the aim is to curb overtourism and to fix the housing crisis then no, it's still not fine.

[โ€“] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know who you think you replied to.. but I agree. More is needed.

This is a good start. Putting hundreds if not thousands of Appartments back on the market for permanent living is good. And at the same time you increase livability in neighborhoods.

[โ€“] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah, it was mostly to your point that renting out rooms is fine as long as it's supervised/closely looked at. Renting out to tourists is bad in my opinion, flat out. Tourists should be lodged at dedicated buildings (hotels/hostels) and the rest should be for local populace.

[โ€“] Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Air BnB started for people with a spare room. Cause then it's just small scale and supervised. Or to rent out when you yourself are on vacation.. like home swapping. And I think both are fine if they are the exception.

[โ€“] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Evidence shows such "rules" are ripe for abuse though. Let's keep tourists in hotels. That system worked for decades without outpricing locals.

[โ€“] vrek@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ok I agree in theory.tyat said I rented a room when younger. In a house that has 2 other older men in the house.

Yeah roommates suck. But I couldn't afford the rent I pay now if they were not there. I was on a month to moth basis for contract and it was a room in a house instead of an apartment means something.

Renting a room isn't that bad, renting nightly is....

[โ€“] Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Roommates and such is fine. If it is done as a primary living space. That means you are invested in your surroundings. If you have parties constantly you piss off the neighbors and there will be trouble.

A vacation rental filled with people that can be as loud and obnoxious as they want because tomorrow or in a few days they leave and will never see the people that actually love there ever again.