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[โ€“] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, continuing down that line of thinking leads to far worse then "kinda fucked up." If the judeo christian deity exists and is accurately described by their books than it is a total monster not worthy of praise or devotion...

What I understand about the judeo christian god is that they are believed to have created everything that has ever been or will ever be. They have total knowledge of everything past present and future, and they "knew me" prior to them creating me, knew what kind of person I would be, and knew without doubt that I wouldn't believe in or worship them... so they created me with full knowledge that I'll spend eternity being tortured in hell. What kind of benevolent deity brings a creature into existence just so they can be tortured? If that's not full blown fucked up, then I don't know what is.

[โ€“] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You've basically touched on one of the core logical issues at play in Abrahamic religions (and others). God is omnipotent and omniscient, or people have free will. It can't be both.

[โ€“] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 11 points 6 months ago

Here is a nice visualisation of the logical paradox:

[โ€“] Flyswat@lemmy.ml -4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

God knowing what you will do does not remove your responsibility of the decision you made.

[โ€“] relevants@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

This isn't about responsibility, it's about preventing suffering. If you could prevent a genocidal leader from being born, which you knew would save hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, why wouldn't you? Because it's that person's "responsibility" that all of those innocent people died after all?

[โ€“] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So is God powerless to stop people from committing evil?