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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Gargari@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

I see people hate snap packaging and removing it if their OS support it. Is it because it's NOT fully open-source or just due to how the technology works?

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[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wiped that drive clean and switched to Fedora.

I might need to switch over as well, but I really don't like rpm (or whatever that's called on fedora, zypper or something? or was that suse?). I've been a Debian user since woody was a new thing and then at some point I gradually moved to ubuntu due to better desktop experience and more up to date packages (back then Debian stable really wasn't anywhere close of bleeding edge) and PPA support was great for my needs. Now I have ubuntu installations which have gone trough upgrades for years and installations I have doesn't seem to work like I want them to. Some of the issues will most likely stay (as RMS said, nvidia rapes babies or something like that) but in general I don't like my browser, signal client and whatnot to notify me that I need to shut them down NOW since they'll upgrade at some point in next 3-6 months. Simple apt dist-upgrade isn't enough anymore and the systems require more and more TLC than I'm willing to give to them. Snapd is at least related to the issues I have 8 times out of 10.

Ubuntu just doesn't have the feel it used to and it's getting annoying enough that the simpler way would be just to reinstall everything and switch to something else, even if it takes some time and effort to migrate 5+ year old installations to new system.

[–] mundane@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't want something completely different, PopOS is a great, snap free, distribution based on Ubuntu. It's what Ubuntu should have been.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Mint also packages stuff that Ubuntu has rolled into snaps

[–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe LM:DE (Linux Mint: Debian Edition)? Obscure software can be a pain to install for the usual reason, but otherwise I'm finding this to be a great distro. Second choice is Solus, but that's even worse when it comes to software.

[–] FakeJake@fr3diver.se 9 points 1 year ago

Or even just Linux Mint (non-debian edition). I've moved to that as it's a familiar Ubuntu base but without snaps.

[–] SillyBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fedora uses DNF, with rpms under the hood, not sure how that works, haha. Honestly I have no problems with it. I'm no power user, but it does everything I need. The only downside being kinda slow repo fetches.

dnf is to apt as rpm is to dpkg.

The first pair are the nice user friendly front ends that pull things in and install from the repos.

The latter are the guts that directly handle the raw packages and are used by the frontends.

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

The next release of Fedora will ship DNF5 as the default package manager, which is supposed to be much faster.

[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If you want up-to-date packages then just switch to testing

[–] animist@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

rpms were a pain for me when i transitioned as well but I've learned to love them