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What programming language ruby, python og javascript? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by diy@sh.itjust.works to c/programming@programming.dev

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I'm looking for a programming language that can help me build a desktop application for Windows, macOS, and Linux that's not big but not small either. Additionally, I'd like to be able to build a website with the same language. I've been considering Ruby, Python, Golang and JavaScript. Python seems to be mainly used for scripting and ai, so I'm not sure if it's the best fit. JavaScript has a lot of negative opinions surrounding it, while Ruby sounds interesting. Can anyone recommend a language that meets my requirements?

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[–] banghida@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Python can do both scripts and desktop apps no problems

[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But use type annotations everywhere and make sure your code is always checker clean (with checkin or PR CI hooks). And don't turn off any lint checks through laziness, e.g. docstring checks. Even for a solo dev it's always worth having everything typed, checker clean, and docstrings (even if they only effectively say "this thing really is what you'd assume"). It all saves time and effort in the long and even medium term.

I've worked on serious large scale Python projects and frankly it's been very pleasant and productive, but only with the above conditions.

[–] diy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

But what about websites.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I'm writing a web app on Python + HTMX. Little to none javascript involved.

If it's something simple you can check out FastAPI. For more complicated projects involving data models and relationships, check out Django.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

May I recommend Litestar over FastApi?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

I've heard a word or two about htmx. How's that? Any recommendations on how to start a first project with it?

[–] balder1993@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So many websites out there are built on Django, Flask, etc. (YouTube must have spent a decade using Python, Instagram, Threads etc. all use Python and optimize as they need).

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It can do back ends with django and flask but the only choice for front ends is javascript or something like htmx

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Javascript

WASM

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I've been using Rust with Leptos and Axum for a website I've been working on. Works great tbh. I don't even know JS.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but be prepared for a lot of pain if you want to distribute your app. Python tooling/infra is abysmal.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

True