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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How about, I don't know, establishing some sort of democracy? Just a crazy idea

[–] Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, but they did.

It just doesn't resemble the bourgeois 'democracy' we have in the west, but rather something else entirely that better fits the 'for the people, by the people, of the people" definition of democracy.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe capitalist states should do that, but they won’t because they’re capitalist states. They’ll form bourgeois democracies at best and fascism at worst[1][2][3].

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago

You misunderstood me. I'm saying after the revolution. The Engels quote implies that because revolution is authoritarian, so is whatever system it implements. Which I disagree with

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago

What your genius idea is missing is that there is an already established society with a ruling class, is your plan to ask nicely? 😅

The point Engels is making is that revolution is about establishing one group authority over the already established authority. In a society where might makes right, only might can resolve it.