this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2024
661 points (96.6% liked)

Lemmy Shitpost

26962 readers
3799 users here now

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean in most cases it would make it even less accurate yeah

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No, most historical settings had some non zero number of black people.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

If you're passing them off as just regular people nbd in that setting then yeah that'd be inaccurate.

Then again, plopping in random white people into an Ancient Chinese setting would be pretty inaccurate too, even though there might've been "some non zero number" of whites over there at the time. Or in a random crowd shot of Nazi soldiers you plop in a few black soldiers. Certainly existed, but while funny it does make it seem inaccurate (and silly imo).

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I see somebody used Gemini image generation...

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

It's all about diversity in my Nazi soldier representation. The Asian woman was top tier decision from Gemini

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ancient China did have a lot of Central Asian and Turkic white people. Red hair, blue eyes and all. They just weren't European whites.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

I think the implication of European whites was clear from the comment though

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Most historical settings"

Roman sure, especially as you get closer to Africa but nonzero elsewhere also

Middle ages, mediæval and renaissance almost certainly limited to higher nobility households either as nobles or "interesting" servants or major trading ports, especially closer to Africa.

The chances of a mediæval serf in a germanic country not looking northern Europe, or Mediterranean at a huge stretch, are functionally zero though, as anyone who came with the Romans will have been long dead with their genetics widely dispersed, and anyone who came over recently would likely be in an urban area, with marriage or higher level employment being their only chance to end up in a rural area.

[–] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you mean what I think you mean, then you're being down voted because your phrasing isn't clear. I interpreted your comment to mean that removal any of dark skinned characters would often make the depiction less historically accurate, due to their historical presence as a minority of some sort across much of medieval Europe. If so, I agree that is amusingly ironic.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I'm saying that depicting black people as a normal feature of Medieval Europe would be huge stretch. Whether that should stop people from doing so, I don't really care about that. Accuracy isn't exactly the only thing to consider in such situations.