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submitted 3 months ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Remember when the war was supposed to end when all the hostages were released?

I wonder what all the people who told me that the objective of this war was to free the hostages are going to tell me now?

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Source? Every report in the last 6 months contradicts your claim.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Most of the aid—approximately $3.3 billion a year

Do you need me to explain why you are incorrect or do you already know?

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago

Presumably you're going to talk about additional aid sent since Oct 7th.

My counter-argument would be that there are more inexpensive ways to kill Palestinians than using expensive munitions, that are well within Israeli capability to attempt.

Regardless, the point of the article is Israel doesn't need us, so we should start backing out now. Just don't expect that to magically stop Netanyahu, who can just switch to lower-tech warfighting.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We should start backing out but israel most definitely needs us to continue. Almost all of their aerial related gear is American and a boatload of mortar and tank shells too.

You can bet that israel isn't fending off those Iranian drone barrages anymore when America stops supplying interceptor missiles either. Hezbollah would gain the upper hand in the north too.

There was an intercept article detailing that meantioned a leaked estimate that israel would run out of ammo in around ~5 months were they not being resupplied by NA.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

So, they would change tactics. They're doing things the way they are because they can and it is advantageous for them to do so. It does not mean it is absolutely required for them to do it this way, and nothing else could possibly work. People are capable of adaptation.

There are multiple options for accomplishing goals in life, and Netanyahu's situation is no different. He is choosing the one he finds most beneficial to him, but others do exist. It's not like Israel cannot borrow money or raise taxes or reduce expensive expenditures. Missile barrages will kill people, sure, but not destroy the country or topple the government.

All that said, we should not be assisting what is happening over there, I think we have a moral obligation to cease, and to force him into other methods. This would not save the Gazans in the short term, Israel would not collapse nor would the food blockade lift. But it might save the Gazans in the long term by further mounting greater and greater pressure on Netanyahu and his nationalistic nut jobs.

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