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Still not sure I get how this all works. I am using the Memmy app. Created a login with lemmy.world. How do I see threadiverse? Can I do it from Memmy? I tried to search threadiverse on Memmy but thereβs nothing there. Am I doomed to never fully comprehend this?
You're on it bro, I'm on kbin browsing this post. We can all see and talk to each other.
Honestly people talk too much about the fediverse and federation to newbies and it creates this false barrier to entry. Here's this person, commenting on a post not knowing shit about how it works or where it's from. You don't really need to know about all of that stuff to get going. Just go to any of the instances and get browsing.
Yeah people tend to spew information because they're excited about the fediverse but it's really not complicated to actually use.
People definitely make it seem more complex than it is.
How about that. Iβm a newbie!
Like 95% of us weren't here a month ago, we're all newbies.
Yeah I'm on sh.itjust.works, another lemmy instance and can see ya
Lol. I think I expected it to be more complicated. Thanks
Threadiverse is a term for all Lemmy instances.
And kbin!
The threadiverse is just the name given to all of the Lemmy and Kbin instances as a whole.
I thought it was fediverse lol
The fediverse includes all services that implement the ActivityPub protocol, which includes the reddit-like "threadiverse" but also Twitter-like services (like Mastodon), Instagram-like Pixelfed, and others.
So some of the things Iβm seeing in Memmy are from mastodon?
Could be, though it's a little clunky to use it that way still. You can subscribe to Lemmy communities from mastodon but you will see every comment as a 'toot' and it's a bit of a clusterfuck to view larger subs that way. It can be great for smaller ones though. I have seen people post and comment here from mastodon but that platform seems like it is built more for following individual accounts and hashtags. Kbin has more capability in the microblogging dept. if that's what you're looking for.
Probably not because discoverability of Mastodon content from Lemmy is not very good; kbin supports it better. I have managed to view a Mastodon user profile from a lemmy instance by searching for it, but I wasn't able to find a good way to see their posts.
Iβm with ya man! I am a member of 4 servers but I am not really understanding the difference between them so stick to lemmy.world mostly.
There isn't much difference really. Some instances/servers block more instances than others, but generally speaking you're getting the same experience on most of them.
I've only got one account on kbin, but I can see communities from a ton of different places and users from everywhere. For example, I'm browsing this from kbin.socal but it's on lemmy.world.
I'm on Kbin as well. I just don't overthink it too much, but the idea is that you can interact with all the different places whether it be Lemmy or otherwise. Either way, you can comment and interact and post everywhere so if it works it's good. And so far it seems to.
I think beehaw is defederated from Lemmy but I don't know if that means it's defederated from Kbin. I can see their things fine.
So beehaw.org defederated from lemmy.world (not Lemmy in general) , and all it does is that users on those two servers can't interact with each other.
But everyone else in the hundreds (thousands?) of other Lemmy & Kbin servers can still see beehaw.org & lemmy.world content and interact with them just fine.
The magic of Federation.
Gotcha. That's pretty cool. I don't suppose there's a reason why just those specific places (instances?) defederated?
Either way, I like the general mashup of being able to see pretty much anything from anywhere here. Organised chaos in a positive sense, bring it on!
Beehaw was built as a safe space (even before all the Reddit furore) - it's all laid out in their main sidebar, and their docs.
So after the big migration last month, users started flocking to the 'verse. And apparently beehaw mods were having so much moderating issues with users from two of the bigger instances (lemmy.world & sh.itjust.works). So after a meeting of admins from the 3 instances, they decided to amicably defederate for now.
And this is the beauty of Federation. You can join instances that align with your values. You can join a safe space and have a curated experience, or enjoy the lawless wild west.
The instance I'm on has defederated NSFW instances, for fear of legal issues. It also means that my "All" feed is safe to browse from work, which is exactly what I'm looking for.
Thanks for the in depth answer!
And that sounds like a mature and adult decision. On the internet. Who knew such things were possible...
Yeah, I've seen more mature discussions in the verse in a month, than I have on Reddit in the past year or two.
The other big one lately is Facebook/Meta joining the verse. Response from the instances have ranged from "Meta can go to hell, we're not gonna federate", to "we'll wait and see", to "great! more content". And they all just agree to disagree with almost no drama.
It's quite refreshing.
Not overthinking things is quite the skill, honestly. Well done.
There's about as much difference between servers as there is between email providers. Sometimes there's technical differences or some might be more reliable, but Lemmy will be Lemmy wherever you go.
Crongrats boss, you already made it lol
Well Iβll be