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[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@novibe @sab

Orwell fought in Spain against Franco. You have some odd definitions of "Anti_Communist."

He hated Stalin? So did everyone who could read and write.

[–] sab@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Orwell is pretty much universally hated by authoritarians on both sides of the political spectrum.

He's a personal hero of mine for many reasons, but that's certainly one of them.

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sab @db0 @boredtortoise @novibe

Imagine hating Stalin with his massacres of real Communists, and being called an Anti-Communist? 😂

[–] sab@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, Orwell writes in Homage to Catalonia that even though he fought alongside Communists, he was there to fight against fascism, not for communism. I think it makes sense that the communists are not all that eager to praise him; that they are too ignorant to read him is their loss.

No matter how you put it, Stalin was certainly a more effective anti-Communist!

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sab @db0 @boredtortoise @novibe

Actually he completely supported those he fought with. The "Poum" were Trotskyists, and could call themselves Communists.

Orwell had no problem with them, and there's Nothing in "Homage to Catalonia which attacks their ideals.

[–] sab@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, I always read him as at least sympathetic to the original communist struggle, no matter how much he despised Stalinism and authoritarianism.

It does, however, make sense that people who in all likelihood consider themselves Stalinists wouldn't be the biggest fans of Orwell. What doesn't make sense is that these morons still exist at all, but that's a different issue entirely.

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago

@sab @db0 @boredtortoise @novibe

I have an astonishing book at home released by the Soviet Union while Stalin was head of the Communist Party.

It's a verbatim summary of some of the purge trials, and the lawyers for the defendants might as well have been the prosecutors.

In fact it reads like fiction, except that it's a real book. Beyond belief that Anyone could support this mass murderer.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but then don’t read anything about what he did right after that!

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago

@novibe@lemmy.ml

I blocked this fanatic, who pretends to know things...