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    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    THE BELOW MESSAGE

    No, it's "the message below" or "the following message". Pick a lane.

    [–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    "Below" is used as a stranded preposition in your case (the more generally accepted usage), whereas the original post uses it at an adjective. While usage of "below" as an adjective is not universal, it is still accepted by some dictionaries. I could only find the Webster English Dictionary as an example, so I suppose it's mostly exclusive to American English. So yes, your example is the more universal mode (as well as my personal preference), but American English generally accepts the above usage as proper grammar. (The sentence above, as well as this one, demonstrate the usage of "above," a relative locus, as both an adjective and a preposition in modern English).

    [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    It took me way too long to realize that all words and grammar were made up by some one at some point while they were being silly. Ever since then I came to the conclusion that people can speak however the fuck they want so long as I understand them.

    [–] denshirenji@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

    Pretty much. There is good sense in teaching a standard to ensure communication is possible, but language can and does evolve. We should allow the changes to happen and document them for future language nerds.

    [–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Holy shit, man! I don't want to take away from your super power, but does anyone actually understand you?

    [–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    This is what too much English grammar does to one... I hardly understand myself. But nah lol that's not how I always talk, I was just trying to use perfect grammar since the whole point was to defend an unusual grammatical construct.

    [–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

    I just hope my inappropriate use of a comma was upsetting

    [–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Lol you just saw "stranded preposition" and bailed, hey?

    [–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I'd like to think I made it to the adjective comparison, but it became demented word salad very quickly

    [–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

    Idk, if you don't get too flummoxed by "stranded preposition" and "relative locus," the rest is pretty plain IMO.

    [–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Stop being so prescriptive, people can talk however they like so far as they're understood.

    [–] Boxtifer@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

    There's a fine line between being understood and being misunderstood. They can't just talk however they like if they don't wanna increase the risk of the latter.

    [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So the Welsh should never talk‽😡

    [–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

    yes the welsh and all other brits should stfu

    [–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

    unexpectedinterrobang

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 6 points 6 months ago

    Yeah. Why say lot word when few word do trick?

    [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -4 points 6 months ago

    If they want to criticize someone's grammar, who are you to say they can't? Stop being so prescriptive!