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Well I don't know anything about that.
The fact the think having an immigration policy is enough to make someone a Neo Nazi is an incredibly low bar. It's this sort of stupidity that is pushing people away from the left.
You are conflicting things. I don't know where you are getting this all from. You must understand that German culture exists. You must understand than at least some Germans, if not most like their culture. This is about people that are not German with a culture that is not German coming to Germany and pushing out German culture. That's what people have an issue with. If German culture changes no one has an issue with that, it's the fact that change is being forced by outsiders that is the issue.
All your arguments are just ridiculous. I'm not talking about German government we are talking about culture. I honestly can't understand why you are changing the narrative.
Again. On about different things. It's like you live in 1984 and not the real world. Why do so many people pretend immigration doesn't affect a country? Why live in that denial?
On the question of Nazis, I must beg your pardon. I know an actual IRL Nazi (or perhaps more), because I knew them before they were Nazis. What I now know on hindsight to be bad faith questions about cultural preservation and immigration was my initial introduction to their new ideology.
As for my concerns about the government, I raise them because I am telling you that you're asking for a one-sided coin. You want government policy to enforce a German culture without the authoritarianism. This is a nonsense thing that belongs in the realm of dragons and unicorns. I am speaking to you as a citizen of a country who has fucked up horribly many separate times and continues to do so, in the hopes that I might help prevent another horrible fuck up.
Reducing immigration is not an authoritarian policy. Its crazy you think it is.
That's a basic government policy.
On the question of Nazis, I must beg your pardon. I know an actual IRL Nazi (or perhaps more), because I knew them before they were Nazis. What I now know on hindsight to be bad faith questions about cultural preservation and immigration was my initial introduction to their new ideology.
On the question of immigration, I think what's being asked for here isn't just modest controls. You might say that, but the language about Germans feeling forced out of their own country would suggest to me that the order of the day is something a little more robust. I think I can be forgiven for that estimation. You can't have it both ways, if you start giving the government extra power to start flexing on immigrants and non-conforming cultures, it's eventually going to get used against you, too. You're never so deep in the in-group as you might think.
The number of people going for cultural enforcement narratives is tiny compared to those being somewhat at unease at the speed of change, or concentration of change in particular areas -- "Kreuzberg isn't Germany" kind of thing no it was never Germany in the first place it's always been Prussian and they're not getting any less civilised with immigration, either, Berliners have always been rude. They're fucking proud of being rude, it's what passes as culture in that excuse for a city.
The AfD, sure, is talking about deporting Germans with foreign surnames -- prompting wide-spread protests by everyone else. Conservatives may or may not get their underwear in a twist over pork-free options on the menu, the question they're asking themselves is "will I be allowed to eat pork in the future". There's a feeling (and do I need to emphasise this: feeling) that their dietary habits are under attack by Muslim immigration on the one flank, and the Green party and their "vegan dictatorship" on another. Meaning: The reaction is not tied to immigration as-such, it is simply a resistance to change, or advocacy. It's perceived as political, and it arguably even is -- Greens want their veggie day in canteens to lower overall meat consumption, while Muslims are saying "yo we don't want to choose the vegetarian option every day can you folks eat something else but pork for once".
The solution? Keep things simmering on low flame. Mind the rate of change, mind the reaction, don't call people racist or climate deniers or whatnot for wanting their pork chops. Pork chops are good. Noone is going to take away pork chops. Pork chops will exist in the future. You don't alleviate fears by getting out the rocket stove.
On the flipside you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone on any side of the political spectrum who argues that there should be pork Döner. In fact, it's illegal to call a vertical pork skewer Döner: You can have veal or lamb, also poultry but then you have to explicitly mention the type of meat. Turks brought it here, everyone likes it (even Nazis!), Turks (by and large) don't eat pork and not necessarily for religious reasons, Döner never contained pork, pork doesn't belong in Döner just as Rostbratwurst isn't made with goat meat.
The left has always been good at identifying structural issues, the right at hitting emotional chords. The left needs to get better at it, much better. People are worried about pork chops being under attack? Then, simultaneously with your veggie day initiative, say that certain traditional recipes should be protected, along the lines of "don't let Nestle and Kraft tell you how to make your pork chops! Defend our culinary tradition!" and voila noone's going to worry about pork chops getting outlawed. Simple as fucking that.
If something like a "German culture" ever existed, it never existed isolated and unchanged by other cultures. It's a short-sighted illusion to think that. And that illusion is used to justify racist and xenophobic positions. Culture is defined by communication, by change and exchange, and thrived when borders were crossed peacefully.