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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Are Flight Offsets Worth It? A lot of them don’t work and some might even be harmful. But there are things you can do if you really have to fly. (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Social Cost of Carbon"

YIKES, that's probably not the article I would reference when trying to introduce people to the social cost of carbon - it's full on fossil fuel industry propaganda, you may want to give it a read.

Also, the $200/t is an estimate of the societal cost of emitting carbon, not the cost of avoiding or removing carbon. There's plenty of ways avoidance/offsets/removal programs that can decrease global emissions for a fraction of that price - it just sets the upper end of what is (for better or worse) a "good deal" for the economy. I.e., if it costs more than $200/t to avoid emitting, it's better for the economy to just let the planet burn.

Agreed that today's carbon "offsets" are cheap because they're garbage, and good offsets are and should be more expensive, but they don't have to be $200/ton to be effective, they just have to be under that much in order to be better than dealing with their consequences.

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh wow, thanks for pointing that out, an oversight on my part. I replaced the link, but damn it's hard to find good sources about this. EPA website is very technical and not much I could find breaking it down well that was not industry-funded.

And yeah there's other ways to look at spending money to offset emissions that are hard to reduce, like air travel. I figure this gets people thinking in different ways and these charities could use the funds.