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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 68 points 4 months ago

Horse shoe theory still doesn't work-- you have to change to the stethoscope model to include tankies

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 30 points 4 months ago

"I'm so leftist I'm voting for Trump" --some young voters unironucally

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

More like bots and bad faith commentators.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, people like Peter Coffin, InfraHaz, and Caleb Maupin are confirmed to be not bots.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Those are what the Bad Faith addition is for.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago

I want to believe this, I do, but that would mean that !libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone is filled with nothing but

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

119 subscribers, 5 users a day.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 4 months ago

That describes like half of Lemmy though

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

There were sadly people in 2016 who protest voted for Trump to get back at the DNC for not nominating Bernie, even when Bernie begged them not to.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago

Is there any evidence of that? I know that 12% of people who voted for Sanders in the primary ended up voting for Trump in 2016, but where's the evidence that they were ever Democrats? It's just as possible that they were Republican-leaning voters who were attracted to Sanders' message, or trying to sabotage the Democratic primary. That's a really good narrative for Clinton supporters to soothe their chagrin at the electoral college loss, but as that article points out, that number is actually pretty par for the course in elections.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Have you met any irl?

[-] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Like 12% of Bernie voters. I imagine meeting 12% of any demographic is rare.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I don't think enough Bernie voters flipped their votes to cause the Trump win. I do believe that many of them stayed home though, but I blame that on the DNC running Hillary Clinton on the most deenergizing platform. I did vote for her, but I didn't consider her a real progressive. She was just the status quo option when Trump was dementia flavored fascism.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters

I've never seen the Eiffle Tower IRL, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists.

[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well, the whole notion that things are on a spectrum is kind of false.

There are the people using what we know about the world right now to try to improve the conditions for all of us and who are willing to adjust course based on evidence and results, and then there are those clinging to failed notions of the past, whether it be an outdated philsophy from four hundred years ago or a failed theory from yesterday.

In that way it's more of a binary that does not care if you're anarchist, monarchist, communist, libertarian, democratic etc. If your ideas aren't working and you fail to admit they aren't working then you have become a conservative, regardless of how radical your idea was when it was concieved.