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[–] Sniatch@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Could be that Finland is a big country with only 5,5 million people living there compared to 83million in germany. Easier to find a place.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and like most of Europe, that German population lives in cities, not random forests and mountains in the middle of nowhere where you could also do underground storage like Finland has done.

Not to mention Germany has more land.

[–] Sniatch@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Don't you think it sounds crazy to build a underground storage just to have it closed for a million years. I just can't understand why anybody would want that.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Compared to Fossil fuels that'll stay in the air for thousands of years while they essentially terraform the planet into something way less habitable for humans? How the hell is that more logical???

Finland is a bit too north and cold for rapid deployment and storage of renewables. Although summer is excellent for solar, winter makes solar barely useful and can decrease some wind (newer designs help a lot with the snow issue).

Germany is more stable, but electrical storage is still an issue, along with the larger population. Having planned at least 1 new power plant while decommissioning the older ones would have made a lot more sense while transitioning to 100% renewables. Spent nuclear fuel doesn't use much space - the spent fuel can be stored underground in containers in deep bed rock in drilled shafts and then cemented over. It's less effort and resources that what Germany's many mining companies use extracting minerals or fossil fuels.

Can't do the same for all that pollution your damn lignite plants make though.

[–] Sniatch@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

No, investing in nuclear costs sooo much money. Money that would be missed for building reneweables. If the conservatives wouldnt have blocked the renewable boom we had in 2012, we would be much further. Im glad were out of that nuclear stuff.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Isn't water an issue under ground

[–] Forester@yiffit.net -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

not that deep, also Fossil fuels are currently devastating our water and air. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_drillhole_disposal

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Its neat that the hole phases through the ground water aquifer without ever touching it.

[–] pendingdeletion@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Not really no, it sounds logical and fairly simple.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

FFS do some research, you dig a big hold drill sideways for a bit and back fill it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_drillhole_disposal

[–] Sniatch@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But why would you do that if you can just without.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well you see we kinda are failing at the whole mitigating climate change issue and we and we only have so many rare earth minerals to exploit for large scale battery storage banks. And every year we are burning more Fossil Fuels and shutting down more reactors and building no new modern designs and giving nuclear none of the funding the fossil fuel industry receives or the renewables industry receives.

[–] Sniatch@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Because funding nuclear is just a hole with no bottom and it takes too much time. Money should be spent on other things.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net -3 points 6 months ago

Brother its a mine-shaft or borehole not a resort and casino

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_drillhole_disposal