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Portuguese President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa had called for Lisbon to find ways to compensate its former colonies, including canceling debt. The government says it has not initiated any process to that effect.

Lisbon is not planning to pay reparations for trans-Atlantic slavery and colonialism, Portugal's government said on Saturday.

The statement comes in response to remarks by President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, who said Portugal could find ways to compensate its former colonies.

Portugal said in a statement that it seeks to "deepen mutual relations, respect for historical truth and increasingly intense and close cooperation, based on reconciliation of brotherly peoples."

It stressed that it had not launched any "process or program of specific actions" for paying reparations.

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[–] mstrk@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude, I'm not descendant of slaves and I'm pretty much a slave of the Portuguese state at the moment. If this corrupt cast of politicians wants to pay reparations, I do not oppose to it, but they need to pay it from their own pockets.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not descendant of slaves

Highly unlikely. Effectively the whole human race is.

[–] mstrk@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I meant directly descendant. And I don't disagree on your reasoning, it's true.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What is the difference between direct and indirect descendant? Also how does the original sin interact with the physical body in such a way that it knows how to follow direct descendant lines?

Ok say I am a slave owner and I have five children. The original sin does it couple with my eldest child or all five, does it divide into 5 equal parts or multiple into 5 or does divide in half with each child? What units does ancestor guilt have, is there a SI version or is it just industry standard units? If I adopt a kid does the original sin particles connect to the adopted kid? If one of my "direct" descendents becomes a slave does his inherited original sin particles meet anti-originao sin particles and cancel out or not? Can original sin particles be passed like a STD, say for example one my kids married a women, has a kid with her, then my son dies, woman remaries and has another kid, would that new kid have the original sin particles or just their older sibling? If two people pass through double doors at the same time do the original sin particles form an interference pattern like waves do?

So many questions. Maybe just show me the equations governing your original sin particle wave thing and how it knows how to follow families

[–] mstrk@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I don't believe the children should pay for they fathers mistakes. I was replying to the OP comment that suggests that we should take into account slavery has something to do with poor conditions some of said descendant of slaves are atm.

I came from a long line of poor people in the sense of money, and only one of my uncles was able to get a degree (from his pocket money and hard work, you have to pay even if it's a public university), recently a cousin was also able to get a degree as well. And me and my brother pursuit more technical courses.

I can have a decent income by working on projects from abroad but the Portuguese state takes ~70% of that in direct and indirect taxation.

Meanwhile I don't have a family doctor for 14 years now, and if I need something to be taken care of I need to get help in the private sector. Justice is slow, the streets and public buildings are decaying to a point of rupture, public administration is a complete disgrace in general...

I'm basically a slave to this corrupt politicians. They take my hard work in the form of taxation and provide nothing/almost nothing in return.