Both of these claims are highly reductive.... Claiming Nazism was secular ignores the complicity of the church's role in the Nazi party and the Holocaust.

Zionism isn't a form of fascism, though it can be supported by a fascist government.

Biggest funders of Zionism was the third reich

Zionism has been a thing since the 19th century and continues into the 21st century, the third Reich only lasted 20 years...... No the third reich was not the largest funder of the Zionist movement.

Not all bad geopolitical events can be defined as fascist.

[–] LoveSausage@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Claiming Nazism was secular ignores the complicity of the church's role in the Nazi party and the Holocaust.

No it doesn't. Fascism as definition uses what suits them best and what's give them power, they are opportunists. The church was a good way for them.

Zionism isn't a form of fascism, though it can be supported by a fascist government.

Hard to be nice colonialists though.

Biggest funders of Zionism was the third reich

Zionism has been a thing since the 19th century and continues into the 21st century, the third Reich only lasted 20 years...... No the third reich was not the largest funder of the Zionist movement.

Ok , if you like to split hairs, biggest funders of the state of Israel and it's colonies at its formation.

Not all bad geopolitical events can be defined as fascist.

True only the fascists ones.

Google generic fascism. And nazi support for Israel.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

No it doesn't. Fascism as definition uses what suits them best and what's give them power, they are opportunists. The church was a good way for them.

Lol, no true Scott's man for secularism?

Hard to be nice colonialists though.

Again, are all forms of colonialism fascist......?

Ok , if you like to split hairs, biggest funders of the state of Israel and it's colonies at its formation.

Splitting hairs? The whole point of me saying you're being reductive is that you are ignoring large swaths of historical context.

biggest funders of the state of Israel and it's colonies at its formation.

Israel was formed in 1948, three years after the fall of the Nazi party......

The largest state contributor during the formation of Israel was Britain. They were in control of Palestine at the end of the war, not Germany.

I think you are recalling the Nazis "attempt" to relocate Jews to places outside Europe, including places like Palestine and Madagascar . The Nazi made several schemes to deport "willing" Jews prior to WW2, in reality they were just schemes to seize assets before the Jews left the country.

Google generic fascism. And nazi support for Israel.

Perhaps read more material about Haavaar agreement than a quick Google search?

The Germans weren't funding Zionism, the Jews being forced to leave the country were, and the vast majority of property seized from the Jews never made it to Palestine.