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Iran said it launched dozens of drones and ballistic missiles towards Israel on Saturday in a major attack following days of acute tension building up in the region and warnings from the US and elsewhere about a wider conflict erupting.

Air attack warning sirens began wailing over Jerusalem just before 2am local time on Sunday after the weapons were fired a few hours earlier from Iran with US and Jordanian military assisting Israel’s air defenses in intercepting the first incoming barrage.

With weapons believed to be still in the air en route to Israel, Iran’s mission to the United Nations posted on X: “Iran’s military action was in response to the Zionist regime’s aggression against our diplomatic premises in Damascus. The matter can be deemed concluded.”

However, it threatened more severe action in the face of further Israeli aggression and warned the US and Jordan specifically not to assist Israel.

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[-] Topipolous@lemmy.ml 154 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So now the Zionist spam brigades have started infesting Lemmy as well judging from some of the comments here. Very sad to see that. Last time I checked on Reddit it was already unbearable there.

This is really bad news, and by no means do I support Iran. But the attack on Irans embassy should have caused sanctions and condemnations. Instead Biden rushed to defend Israel as if Israel wouldn’t have started this.

I can’t believe what a fucking tragedy this is. With the US elections upcoming, Biden being prepared to die on this hill is what may actually cause that Trump wins and the US turns into full on fascism. Needless to say Trump won’t do jackshit for Palestinians either.

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 56 points 5 months ago

Western media hypocrisy made it seem mike an ordinary thing to target embassies, which have a very particular status akin to targeting the homeland territory , some mainstream media barely touched upon the news or dismissed it completely, if it were any other country like Russia targeting an EU embassy in asia or Africa it would have been non-stop news and escalation. they manufacture the outrage on small issues and keep the people ignorant on more important ones.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My local news straight up called these air attacks "Iranian aggression". No, you fuckers, Israel went first this time. Usually it's a slight slant but that's just lies.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago

"You furnish the pictures, I'll furnish the war!"

William Randolph Hearsts, the lot of them.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’ve seen the media careful to make a distinction between the embassy and “a consular building adjacent to the embassy”. I did a quick search expecting the to be the defense.

But international law is the real wtf. According to the Wikipedia entry

is the obligation of the country in which an embassy is located to protect the embassy, but international treaties do not expressly prohibit a third country to target diplomatic premises if they host combatants and are targeted in an act of self-defense, although a claim of self-defense cannot usually justify an attack on the territory of a country not participating in hostilities.

So, it’s Syria’s fault for not protecting diplomatic buildings? Plus Syria probably has a claim against Israel, whereas Iran doesn’t?

I’m sure Israel will attempt to argue self defense based on the targeted officers and however they may have participated in the original attack and involvement of Yemen, but that’s a pretty big stretch.

[-] Jamil@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago

This is all due to the breakdown of norms by allowing Israel to do whatever it wants. Respect for American soft power is non existent because of the double standard with Israel, Russia and the Middle East. Now American citizens get dragged into another war that they don't want by the ruling class.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Not just allowing israel to do so, but providing them with weapons and now America and the UK are even intercepting any retaliation. Making sure nobody can fight back against the bully.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

I think it's fair to rush to intercept. It's a purely defensive action, and if they're able to intercept the entire barrage of attacks, Israel may not retaliate. It's in everyone's best interest -- Iran included -- that this doesn't escalate even farther and farther.

Iran had all the right to do this, but that doesn't mean they should have. The ideal situation would be for the US and company to prevent attacks from landing and then telling Israel to end their genocidal operations unless they want to face the next wave themselves.

And if Israel refuses, then let Netanyahu handle it himself. Make good on our threat to not help.

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 29 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately, I'm not certain it's in Israel's best interest that this doesn't escalate. They can probably do serious damage to Iran whereas the reverse is far less certain (evidently from this attack). And they knew very well that their embassy attack will bring Iranian retaliation. Now they'll just use that for an even greater response.

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

"You're out of office and getting prosecuted right away when this war is over!"

Netanyahu:

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Starting a two front war is never a good idea. Israel has the advantage over any single country in the region but it would be stupid of them to escalate that into multiple countries.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

This drone attack by Iran may have more to do with "showing" it's little vassal terrorist groups it's prodding and bankrolling into doing Iran's dirty work that Iran is "doing" something militarily in support of Hamas and the Houthi.

What is a drone strike that is going to take 8 to 10 hours to arrive supposed to accomplish when it's so easy to spot coming well ahead of time. It's not like Iran doesn't have missiles that can hit Israel in a handful of minutes if Iran really wanted to do damage.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’d say the best that could be hoped for is Israel shoots everything down.

  • Iran got their revenge
  • Israel wasn’t harmed
  • As a US citizen, I’m fine with encouraging this part of the war to end with “sure, we’ll replace all the missiles Israel used to defend themselves”

Before everyone attacks me, remember that anti-aircraft missiles are good for defense but not offense.

[-] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

They've been here for a while. Try reading new posts and find the negative vote comments. Same for y'all-queda and the qultists and white supremacists, and tankies, and most misinformation campaigns. It is the internet after all.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 18 points 5 months ago

God I hope this place doesn't turn into something like Voat where it's just another 4chan like environment filled with all the users banned for posting racist shit and CP.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Nah, mods here are pretty liberal with the banhammer.

Banned for calling mods liberals

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Yep. They had CP come through a couple of the communities and they locked that shit down pretty quickly.

Some motherfuckers don't know how to act.

[-] livus@mander.xyz 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They're being a bit futile. If your default sort is active it doesn't hide any downvoted comments.

And if you're on an instance like Kbin or Beehaw, downvotes don't even affect vote count because the downvotes are not federated.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Who do you think the tankies support in this conflict? Or, is this just poisoning the well to help Israel / US?

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 months ago

"Tankie" doesn't coincide with any distinct political bloc, it's essentially a buzzword to discredit leftists that are claimed to support authoritarian regimes. But what one might call a tankie in this instance would support Palestine as 'tankies' are against the US and their proxies.

[-] narp@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago

Someone who supports Palestine and is against the US is not automatically a Tankie. But if this person at the same time makes excuses for the Russian invasion or argues that Taiwan belongs to China, then they are.

Hypocrisy (lying / arguing in bad faith) is exactly what makes the difference between a leftist and a Tankie.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

You are correct, and it is used that way, what I'm saying though is there isn't a distinct definition, it's used differently by different groups and so only really serves to muddy discussions and shun ideological outsiders.

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