So with that data point you're saying China is the country to be born in 2024? Because while I'm not at all discrediting their incredible pace in improving the life of their citizens from an economic perspective.

But I'm personally far more concerned about questions about freedom of expression and of opportunities and as such would prefer to be born in any Nordic country as an example, or Switzerland as another. Sure you could argue the Nordic model doesn't scale because a population of 10 mil is not the same as more than 1 billion. But that wasn't really a part of the question here. To me economic growth is just one dimension, an important one but not the only one to judge a country against. So once again, from a political perspective, which is what we're talking about here when we're saying that the West is failing, how is China better? I mainly see the mainstream outlets and they show a bleak state of affairs from that perspective, can you counter that?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

No that's not what I'm saying, and the fact that's what you got out of it says volumes. China has consistently been improving lives of the people living in China since the revolution. People have seen their lives improve in pretty much every single way with each and every decade. That's an example of a system that actually works in the interest of the public.

I’m personally far more concerned about questions about freedom of expression and of opportunities and as such would prefer to be born in any Nordic country as an example, or Switzerland as another.

That's because you have your basic needs met and you have no empathy.