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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's demonstrably not, but westerners just keep clinging to their failed system lacking the courage and imagination to try anything different.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (12 children)
[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What definition of proletarian democracy? It’s not well defined and means vastly different things to different people.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Democracy in which the bourgeoisie are denied political agency as class relations are in the process of being dissolved. The problem isn't actually democracy, the problem is that in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (democracy where capitalists are in control) capitalist interests override democracy.

Not that democracy doesn't have problems inherently, but they're pretty minor compared to the problems we are facing.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

A brutal crackdown on the ability of the bourgeoisie to influence elections, buy politicians, and hold office, such that liberals will crow about "human rights" and "freedom" being violated. We can draw fine distinctions between different systems, but fundamentally they still fall on the same side of the fence.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago (8 children)
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[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago
[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

What they do in Cuba, or the PRC, or the former USSR

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago (17 children)

Almost any other kind of democracy. Representative democracy is better than fascism but it is the worst form of democracy

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[–] sadschmuck@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Participatory democracy

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[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (25 children)

consider yourself enlightened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_centralism

edit: love how you can state basic facts and libs start seething

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