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For example, I'm using Debian, and I think we could learn a thing or two from Mint about how to make it "friendlier" for new users. I often see Mint recommended to new users, but rarely Debian, which has a goal to be "the universal operating system".
I also think we could learn website design from.. looks at notes ..everyone else.

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Fedora, NixOS and Void need a proper wiki like Arch

Most distros could also learn from Arch and create something similar to the AUR. Nix is going in the right direction.

And I guess almost all distros could learn from Artix and Devuan and reconsider if systemd is the right choice.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

honestly I wished the arch wiki turned into a distro agnostic wiki. i have been using debian for decades and use arch wiki all the time but it would be nice to have a one stop shop for linux documentation. the Wikipedia of Linux run as a coalition.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NixOS is at least starting to work on a new wiki. The old one is gone and is only accessible from archive.org.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Seconded. NixOS's documentation has consistently been the worst I've read, always forcing me to go to the source code to try and understand what in the world is happening. It makes quick changes to new things nigh impossible. I had to resort to taking notes when I understood things about nix in order to retain the knowledge or at least link to where I could easily regain it.

The nixos wiki was marginally better and https://nixlang.wiki/ has been better. However the latter is less known so has less content. All in all, nix documentation is still bad.

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[–] Laser@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

NixOS has the best concept and even pioneered it, but whether its implementation and documentation is perfect is a topic for debate.

However, it's been quite long since I had to fiddle with my config and as such, the downsides don't really affect one on a daily basis. In fact, I recently reinstalled my machine to change the root filesystem and it was an absolute breeze. If not for secure boot, it would have been absolutely trivial, and with secure boot it was easy and convenient.

As such, I consider the pains an investment into system that runs much better down the road. Though I'd love it if these pains were reduced.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NixOS has the best concept AMD even pioneered it,

I'm assuming "AMD" is a typo?

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[–] Laser@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes! Apologies, didn't proofread what my phone produced from swiping

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

It would've been welcome and surprising news! 😄

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

I'll definitely check that out, thanks

[–] eos@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Most distros could also learn from Arch and create something similar to the AUR.

i've seen Void's xbps-src tool compared to the AUR multiple times in /r/voidlinux (and i guess it's like a decentralized AUR?? you can build+install pkgs from source using the package manager, sure, but there's no one big diy xbps packages registry like aur.archlinux.org for Void) and while i don't really see it, if you follow that train of thought, void's pretty set in the "right direction" :D

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

I heard about it, but haven't tried it out properly yet.