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    Arch and Gentoo users reading about NixOS (sh.itjust.works)
    submitted 7 months ago by 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] christ0st@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine if NixOS had as good a wiki as Arch. Personally, I wouldn't bother with another distribution again.

    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    They released their wiki apparently on April 1st.

    So now we need just to fill it with the missing content. (which there is a lot). And it will be as good as the arch one..... In 20 years.

    Or smb made a bad April's fool and actually their wiki is older.

    [–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    The NixOS wiki's been around for a few years at least, it just doesn't get as much traffic from search engines since NixOS isn't super popular.

    [–] kirby@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I think what they are referring to is the official wiki at wiki.nixos.org (there also is / was an unofficial wiki)

    [–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Didn't realize that was unofficial lol

    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 5 points 7 months ago

    Ah this makes sense since I started nixos 3 weeks ago and was sure I already was on a wiki before April. I believe the official one is also mostly copied from the unofficial one for now

    [–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Nixos has made me a better software engineer, I hope it takes off

    [–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    How?

    [–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago

    Software engineering is usually distinct from programming in that it isn't about the logic behind programming, but about the project management that all software projects typically have in common.

    Besides agile methodology, a lot of software engineering involves creating reproducible environments. While NixOS doesn't provide anything that much different from tools like Ansible,

    NixOS follows a functional/declarative design paradigm, functional/declarative design paradigms communicate similar logic for solving the same problem. It's a restrictive paradigm. Consider how javascript is not restrictive, as in, you can code with any design paradigm in javascript, and how it's ugly for that.

    I also think functional paradigms mirror the natural language closer than imperative paradigms. That's subjective, but I would still argue Math is a logical language that is a subset of the natural language, and since functions in programming represent a process of doing something, functions make for natural verbs. Meaning, understanding the naming convention for the functions, is a natural naming convention for when I communicate with other software engineers, even when I'm not asking about making configurable/reproducible systems in NixOS

    Or when I look at how to config things like firewall, ssh, vpn servers, user group permissions... it's a minimalist description that I could communicate to other people configuring even on a debian server

    So, it's hard because it's restrictive, but if you're willing to put up with a learning curve, you get a language agnostic framework for describing computing environments, more or less. Then there's more advanced stuff with nix flakes, which still doesn't make sense to me functionally/linguistically, but I'm starting to see the value in parallel package management and the precision in reproducibility they provide by requiring sha256 git commits